Burnt Flowers
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We’re taking a look at another “locally-sourced” horror; the time-tangled psychedelic noir that is “Burnt Flowers” from Director/Writer/Actor Michael Fausti. Spanning across 3 eras, a Police Detective on a missing person’s case in the 90s finds it somehow links to a series of unsolved murders around the shady world of 60s gangland, and also to her own family past. As this is a new film that’s still making waves at various Festivals, this episode is in two stages; first off a general discussion, hopefully giving you an idea of what the film is like, and then we’ll give you fair warning before moving into spoilers. This is a whole-hearted recommended watch from the Welcome To Horror team, and if you get the chance, we urge you to check it out. With a magnificent cast, a haunting premise and a cinematic look and flair that surpasses it’s small budget and then some; this is a real treat for seekers of the smart and strange in horror. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers and join us.
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Unknown Good evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.
Chris I'm Chris.
Adam Hi, I'm Adam.
Lee And we are here this evening to discuss 2024's Michael Fauste masterpiece, Burnt Flowers.
Chris Are you spoiling the people there, Lee?
Lee I'll keep, I'll keep doing it, don't I?
Adam I'll keep your powder dry, boy.
Lee Oh no, I'm sorry.
Lee I just, I just wish I'd done it with bad films now.
Lee Ladies and gentlemen, we're covering the absolute wank basket that is us.
Lee But yeah, I just... Spoiler if you've not listened to the ass episode, I thought it was a pile of Todd. I don't give a house down a lot of great films. Oh yeah, he has. Just that one was an absolute. Don't let that throw you. but yes, so there will be spoilers, there will be swearing, but again, as we've done recently because this is a newly released film, we're going to keep the spoilers to a minimum, and we're going to discuss the film in general, and then what we'll do is we'll come in in about 20 minutes or so, we'll give you a little warning and say, right, if you haven't seen it yet, now's your time, clear out, go and watch it, come back and we can all discuss the ending together. thank you very much to Michael Fauste, obviously, for reaching out to us, and giving us access to this movie. it is available currently, I believe, Adam.
Adam I believe so, it's, oh no, I'm thinking, I'm thinking of, I know that they were just, just recently talking about, his, short The Gessen has become available on TV.
Adam so I don't know if Burnt Flowers is, but I know it is, we'll, we'll have to check into that and we'll put it in like the, blurb for the show.
Lee It does not yet appear, it does not yet appear to be available.
Adam But it is, it has been, it has been at, various festivals.
Chris Several festivals, yeah.
Adam Yeah, get yourself to a festival.
Adam Yeah, we do, if it's there, it's definitely, definitely one to watch.
Adam If you're, you know, if you've got with, I mean, we're, we're quite spoilt for choice these days, we have Horror on Sea, and we have the Romford, Horror Film Festival, I believe it played both of those, so, you know, we are sort of, we're, we're quite spoiled in our little area, but it's doing around.
Lee So, yes.
Lee yes, so, quick, idea of the story, so it's 1960s, it's London.
Lee there is a group of gangsters who are looking to start up a little club just outside, they found a, a country manor house and they're going to set it up.
Lee and then it cuts to modern day, a detective.
Chris Oh, it's 1992.
Adam Yeah, I was going to say.
Lee Yeah, not quite modern.
Adam Reasonably, sort of modern day as we wish it was, because we're old bastards now.
Lee Yeah.
Adam We, we still live there sometimes.
Adam We, we're still, we're still there.
Adam We're sitting there going, oh, that new sensor album.
Lee You know, that's what.
Lee Last year when Terminator 2 came out.
Chris Exactly, yeah.
Lee But yes, so it cuts to 1990s, a young detective has, had a missing person's report filed, and is following up on it.
Lee And the two stories intersect and it, and the story goes from there, I don't want to give any more than that away at the moment.
Adam Yes, so, so you've got, yeah, so you've got the, the sort of, the, the gangster, story line going on in 1968, you've got the current story line going on in 1992, and there's also a brief dalliance to 1983 as well.
Adam but essentially, the modern case of the missing person relates back to the gangsters, but also to an unsolved series of, murders that took place that are in, occurring in the same world as the underworld, but not necessarily, you know, it's not necessarily the, the sort of gangsters, it's a concurrent crime with that, it's not gangland killings or anything else like that, it's serial murder.
Lee And I've got to say, I loved the way that they, they put that together as well, so rather than just having some, you know, like, it'd be very easy to just have a read off of a, oh, so this murder on that date and this murder, but I loved the fact that you'd get like a part of the story, and then it had just cut to a dancer, and then you would just see them dead and it had a top, it was a really nice way of showing you that it was a, it was a constant thing and there were lots of victims, without it, without it A, taking up too much of the run time, and B, without it just being somebody reading you a list, I thought it was a really good way of sort of dropping it into the story and building it.
Adam And and it brought it home as well because you'd have the bit where it was like the, the, the sort of bit of, because it's, it's, it's women who are being murdered, and you'd have, footage of them like dancing or at a party, or, you know, having enjoying themselves, having a good time or whatever like that, then it would sort of almost slam to when the body's discovered, and that is sort of horrible and bleak and like a crime scene photograph.
Chris Yeah, yeah.
Adam And that sort of, that was a, I think that was a really good way of you've got this sort of thing of this, you know, of vibrant lives being extinguished.
Adam And yeah, and as you say, yeah, it's much, it brings it out much more than just like if you had something where they're going, oh, it's this series of murders that took place, and then you've got, you've got no faces to that or any sort of.
Lee Exactly.
Adam You know, emotion to that as it were.
Chris And I thought they kept to a style, it was well produced in that, you know, the the gory horrific scenes still were were nicely mixed with the more uplifting elements.
Chris It did seem like overall good balance, it did, and a lot of the gore was more the, the sort of gangland violence as well.
Adam And and a lot of the gore was more the, the sort of gangland violence as well.
Chris Well that, that was, yeah, it was pretty hard hitting some.
Chris Even like in the very first scene practically.
Lee Yeah.
Chris Not messing around, it's it is definitely gritty.
Lee He's I didn't feel it went too far, like I thought it did a really good job of kind of showing it, it didn't shy away from it, but it didn't sort of revel in it either.
Lee It was as Adam said, the scenes before, you know, you see them dancing, then you see the photographs, you didn't, you didn't kind of revel in their murder so much, but you still got the story put into place in a really nice and interesting way.
Adam Yeah, it was it wasn't like a sort of it it wasn't a there was gore, but it wasn't a sort of reveling in that gore thing, it was it was there to sort of like, it was there to shock you and rather than sort of, you know, indulge or sort of, you know,
Chris it added the edge, yeah.
Adam and, there's a number of, there's a, actually, there's a number of sort of blink and you miss it sort of appearances from people that we've seen in, films recently like, Tales from the Great War and, and, like the, video shop, Tales of Terror, people, so there's a lot of people in there, where they're sort of like, they've got smaller roles in this and everything, but.
Adam I think it has to be said, Michael Fauste, who plays, who not only wrote and directed it, but also plays the main gangster, and does it very well.
Lee Yeah, he was terrifying.
Chris Tony, Tony Rose.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And and friend of friend of the podcast Andrew Elias, was his second in command, yeah, and, and their, their interplay was one of my favorite things about it, because I think they sort of, it just, it just had that right feel to it of like this, you know, he's that sort of weird thing of like friendship and loyalty, but you are doing horrible, horrible things.
Lee Yeah, and also it had that undertone of things that I'd imagine these kind of gangsters have or had, yeah, where you, they never quite trust each other either, I always got the impression, yeah, that despite the fact they've done all this stuff together and they've obviously got a certain amount of connection and loyalty to one another, because of the things they've done, but they both always gave in their performance a kind of, yeah, I don't know what he's going to fucking do next and where it's going to lead, yeah, which, which I'm imagining is exactly what it would be like in this kind of a situation.
Lee I know he's a nutcase, and he could do anything at any moment, and it gives you that constantly off kilter, we're even there, not, you know, they might be topper their tree, but they're not really in a comfortable position at any point.
Adam No, it's a very, it's a very tenuous position.
Adam that can go so, and, and the thing is, is it's one of, you know, the more people that are involved, the more sort of crimes that you're committing, the more that your empire stretches, the more you're attracting attention, the more there's more opportunities for the wheels to come off at various points and due to various different people.
Adam You know, and, and that's the thing is, because we, but yeah, I, but no, I thought, I thought they were, they were great, I also, and you've got, the, the, the main, the, the main character as it were, of, Frank, Frank.
Chris Detective Frank.
Adam Orban, played by Amber Doig Thorne.
Adam who I've, I've not seen, I've not seen her in anything, but apparently she's in, you know, Winnie, Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey.
Chris Oh, right.
Adam so, and she is.
Chris Has anyone seen that?
Lee No, I haven't.
Adam Yeah, no.
Adam but, she's also in Mosaic, which is another of the, sort of, anthology films that has, that, that the, the sort of this group of filmmakers, like local, sort of Essex group of filmmakers, it's another one of their, anthologies, which I'm kind of keen to see.
Lee Yeah, I was going to say, I think it missed the Romford unfortunately, but I know everyone was very, yeah, very complimentary about it from what I heard, so, yeah, keen to see that at some point.
Adam And.
Chris Yeah, she was fantastic in this.
Chris I mean, like they all, I thought it was all very well cast and they all, as as they have done in other films, chilled together really well.
Lee She was, and again, I was not worried, but it was like there were so many names that I've seen in other stuff, and then the main character was someone I hadn't, you kind of think, oh, they've got all this great talent and a, you know, and then it's someone I've not seen before, but she was outstanding, obviously, I mean, she played it perfectly, it was really, really good.
Adam And I thought, Aviana Snow, who again is someone who I've seen very briefly in other things, I thought, you know, she had a much more expanded role in this, basically of playing the, the sort of classic film Noir, Fem Fatal, who starts the ball rolling on the case and everything else like that.
Adam And, yeah, no, I think she was really good, and really sort of like just constantly sort of playful, sort of slightly amused.
Lee Yeah.
Adam By the whole thing, which just sort of created a, a, a sort of nice, immediately puts the, puts the detective on the wrong foot, puts her on the wrong foot because it's like, you know, because she's basically turned up to say, I'm reporting my husband missing after eight years, and, whereas last time she, a brothel, and you know, and it's sort of, you know.
Lee But admitting it in such a matter of fact way that, yeah, it does, it gives you that kind of, are you just fucking with me this whole time and, yeah.
Lee And it, I thought that worked really well, it definitely, it gave it that, that off kilter feeling right from the beginning, because you're like, there's something off with her immediately, yeah, and it created that very strange dynamic between them, which was good.
Adam And I have to say, I really, really, really want the fucking soundtrack to this.
Chris It is, again it fits the whole style so well.
Adam Yeah, it's, the composer's, Nick Byrne, and yeah, just the amount, because there were, there was a couple of bits where I was like, have they actually got for your love, like the old yard bird song in, but it was but the sort of, the 60s stuff was really, really, the, it was, you know, the music was right for the right points, and all the 60s stuff really did sound like old, like hits.
Adam You know, and it was like.
Adam So, yeah, I, I would really like that, I actually have to say one of the other things that I thought was really good, is there was, because obviously, you've you've where you've got the time shift of, what would it be, it's like 25, 20, 24 years, and they don't stupidly age anyone.
Lee No.
Adam You know, anyone, anyone who's I mean, essentially, there's only a few characters who cross over the time frame, but they don't sort of ludicrously sort of overtly make them older, but they are clearly older.
Lee Yeah, and I felt the same with the, so as you say, it it jumped a lot between times, and they didn't make it over the top, but at the same time, there was never any uncertainty about what time you were in, you know, it wasn't like, oh, is this happening in 90, or is this happening, like it was very clear, it was done with the sets and the music and everything, so it was really cleverly done to not be, it was obvious enough that you never questioned it, but without having to slap you in the face with the, yeah, we're trying to point it out to you.
Lee It just, yeah, fantastically constructed.
Lee And I've got to say as well, so Danny Thompson is in this, who's obviously, we're big fans of and he's always absolutely outstanding.
Lee but the.
Adam essentially independent horror royalty.
Lee Yeah.
Adam As indeed a lot of these people are, but yeah, Danny Thompson especially, yeah.
Lee But the the bit where they showed her TV show, what was it called, psychic connections from the 70s, and it looked exactly like a 70s TV show, it had that slight multicolored blur to everything and, oh, it just, it was.
Adam Yeah, there was a bit of tracking run.
Lee Yeah.
Adam It was, you know, it was, it, the soundtrack a bit like that, and yeah, no, they, that's, that's the, that's the thing is, I think because you like the 60s stuff is, you know, is kind of a lot more sort of vibrant in a way, and then the sort of modern day stuff had a much more subdued, rather palette to it, you know, it was like the difference between summer and autumn almost, that was like the defined the definition between the two eras basically.
Chris Subdued, brighter pallet to it.
Adam But yeah, they had that and they, like they've got the bit where it's the, the sort of silent, like old blue movie sort of thing, and again, and again that sort of that effect looked really well, and actually, although he's not actually in it, the cinematographers, is, Camel Yildirim, yeah, aka Le Chat Noir, and, from, haunting of the Lady Jane and Wastelands and everything.
Chris Oh, right.
Adam And yeah, I think that is a, you know, that's he's definitely sort of I can see because he does that sort of dreamy sort of, look to things really well.
Chris Absolutely, yeah, definitely see.
Adam And, just while we're while as we're recording this, I know that they've been posting, like Fauste Films have been posting on Instagram this week that they are making something else, and, you like say, Michael Fauste and, Camel Yildirim is there, again as, like director of photography and stuff, so, yeah, so we're looking to get more, which is.
Lee Yeah.
Chris So I mean, they're certainly honing their style.
Lee Fantastic.
Chris Absolutely hitting the nail on the head.
Lee One of the things I loved with this was the amount of people who we saw in this, as you touched on earlier, Adam, who we've seen in other stuff and loved.
Lee So, yeah, so seeing Sahe Henty again and Phillip Rogers, Annabel Rich again, just, it was, although they were much smaller roles, it was excellent to see.
Lee Michael, Alexander Churchyard as well was in it, who we know is currently working on Video Shop Tales of Terror 2, and he's taking on a director role in part of that movie.
Adam Yes.
Lee yeah, and Lawrence R. Harvey, who.
Adam Yes.
Lee Like to go from obviously Centipede 2 and just to just see him in all these films now, is so heartwarming, it's, it's, I yeah, no I think, I think, because again, he's, he's one of those people who's just sort of like, he's just out there, and again, I'm just, I just love the fact of out for doing these films he is, you know what I mean, because I mean, obviously, like you say, probably the, the internationally, Human Centipede 2 would be the thing that he's most well known for, but, did you know that he's actually got a, not not a sideline, but there's a company called Cadabra Records, and he does spoken word albums for them with like various people doing musical backing for it, but it's stuff like MR James, Arthur Machen, Polidori, you know, Edgar Allan Poe, Roland Toppor, and Lovecraft, you know, and he's done spoken word albums with like musical backing and he, you know, that's that's another thing that he does as well as being in sort of like all these, horror films.
Adam Yeah, no, I think, I think,
Adam Because again, he's he's one of those people who's just sort of like, he's just out there, and again, I'm just, I just love the fact of out for doing these films he is, you know what I mean, because I mean, obviously, like you say, probably the, the internationally, Human Centipede 2 would be the thing that he's most well known for, but, did you know that he's actually got a, not not a sideline, but there's a company called Cadabra Records, and he does spoken word albums for them with like various people doing musical backing for it, but it's stuff like MR James, Arthur Machen, Polidori, you know, Edgar Allan Poe, Roland Toppor, and Lovecraft, you know, and he's done spoken word albums with like musical backing and he, you know, that's that's another thing that he does as well as being in sort of like all these, horror films.
Adam And he has a real gift for comedy, and, and, and also even even in this where it's like, you know, it's, it's a very slezy cameo that he's got.
Chris It is, it is.
Adam But it's still sort of, it still, it still amusing and still, yeah.
Adam so, yeah, it's again just these.
Chris And it ends well.
Adam Oh, yeah, it is very well, thank you.
Adam He usually does.
Adam I think, I think he's going to end, he's going to end up being able to do a memoir like Peter Cushing where he just lists all the ways in which he's been dispatched in film.
Chris I'm just going to look, he's got upcoming 17. Yeah, actually, he's just, they've just released an album by, he's got a band, or he's in a band called Clippety Clop, he plays percussion, and that's just been released like an album from like 20 odd years ago, which when you say that, you then go, oh yes, that's 2004, which still feels dead modern, but there we go.
Adam Yeah, no, it's great.
Lee Yeah, I, I again, and I thought this film looked really nice as well, like it again, as we said, with the Andrew Elias stuff, although it's on a much lower budget, the film quality is incredible, it looks so crisp and so clear.
Chris It is, yeah.
Lee I mean, I know we, obviously we saw it in a an HD version.
Lee but it just looked incredible.
Adam And once again, the sound.
Lee Yeah.
Adam You know, they, I mean, that, that, full credit, you know, that that that ultimate bug bear of, independent cinema is, you know, especially very low budget cinema, is that keeping the sound grade, and this, yeah, I mean, the score onwards, it's, you know, it sounds terrific, you know, it's, it's really well sort of like mastered and produced and everything.
Chris It's just.
Lee Nothing draws me out of a film more than having to have one hand on the volume control, because you don't know what the next scene's going to do, but it, yeah, like you say, I didn't even think of it, because it didn't cross my mind, because we just put it on and we sat and went right through it and, yeah.
Lee You got everyone was saying, the score wasn't too, that that's the other thing with independent, sometimes we find, I say, luckily not with anything we've covered recently, but when we've covered older stuff like Thanks Killing and stuff like that, yeah, where every time the score comes in, you have no idea what anyone's saying, unless you've got the the subtitles on and it's just chaos.
Lee yeah, and like I think the technology's out there now for people to really tighten this stuff up and they've put so much effort in, and it just, it does just allow you to get so drawn into the film, because you're not constantly, oh shit, that was loud, or what are they saying and just, yeah, it's just, yeah, excellent, really.
Chris Yeah, and talking about the dialogue was good throughout.
Lee Yeah.
Adam It's the fact that they, you know, they describe it as film Noir with with like a horror sort of element to it.
Adam And I think that is very accurate, you know, that's kind of it's those, it's, it's those proper good ones where it, you know, you end up falling down, well, you know, as they say in it, you end up falling down the rabbit hole, and, you know, you, you do sort of like, it's, there's a lot, a lot of twists and turns, and you aren't quite sure of people, and no one is quite sure of people and a few people aren't sure of themselves.
Lee Yeah.
Adam You know, and it has that proper sort of feel to it where it's, you know, almost is everyone.
Chris And it's a subtle, it's a subtle thread that runs throughout because again, that could be done very clumsily, but when it holds up all the way through.
Lee And it all falls down to the performances ultimately, if it isn't performed well, yeah, then you either you get the tell or it feels like a cheat because it doesn't feel real, but everyone did such a fantastic job, yeah, that the twists and turns and everything kind of come out of left field every time and catch you.
Lee this is probably a good time to give the spoiler warning, I say if we're going to head into.
Adam I'd say so. Spoiler alert.
Lee go and Adam has just waved his hand over the camera like a, like a screen fade between the pre and post spoiler, yes, so, if you are going to watch this film, which we heartily recommend, yes, pause this now, stop this, go and find it somewhere and then return and, even if you return in a couple of months time when it's readily available.
Lee because I love that sometimes with a podcast, when they talk about something pre spoiler, and it wets your appetite for it, and then you can go back and listen to the whole thing again with a better view of what's to come, so, this is your chance now, so clear off and we'll see you once you've seen Burnt Flowers.
Adam Yeah, we'll still be here.
Lee We will, we will still be here.
Lee Yeah, oh, the twist in this was, the twists, it was multiple twists, which, yeah, which I really, really liked.
Lee as you said, you know some things up with Alice, but then finding out, and I, I got a very slight inkling of it when the dodgy detective was on the phone, to Michael Fauste and said, someone's coming in reported a missing person, no, nobody saw them.
Lee I was like, oh, I wonder if that's going to come back later on, but yeah, I wondered if it was going to be a different person.
Lee I didn't think it was going to be that nobody.
Lee He's showing up, which was excellent.
Adam And and having said, and and again,
Adam having said about the, fact that you've had the good differential with the aging makeup, obviously Alice doesn't look any different in 1968 to 1992.
Adam And so, you know, and I think, I think actually that was possibly the reason why I was so impressed with the aging thing, because it was like, right, okay, so there, at that point, I'm kind of like, well, there's something happening, and obviously, it then starts being, she disappears, midway through a conversation and things like that.
Adam And it was, yeah, you you knew something was up.
Adam and then obviously you've got.
Adam the, Danny Thompson's character's daughter, who then is the sort of driving force for the plot in 92 as well.
Lee It was Alice Stevenson, that's the one.
Lee I've got to say, my money was on Danny Thompson being the killer.
Adam Yes.
Chris
Lee I had thought because I was like, well, I don't think we'd heard what her end was, but we know she's no longer there.
Lee And I'd kind of pinned it on her, because she was always around and the tarot cards and things, I was like, oh yeah, maybe that's, maybe it was her.
Lee Oh, yes.
Lee I was totally.
Lee Thrown when it that wasn't the case at all.
Adam But the the interesting thing was is because at certain points, and then by the end of it, they are dressed the same, essentially.
Adam so, Frank and, Iris, are they both, are they actually half sisters?
Lee Yeah.
Lee See, now it's funny, Jennifer said that at the when we were watching it, yeah, I think it was about two thirds of the way through, where she got an inkling and then suddenly went, oh, hang on a minute, is this getting into Star Wars territory, she had just unexpectedly fucked her own sister, which would just be.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Super weird.
Adam Yeah, don't ever mention that to a Star Wars fan, but slightly Game of Thrones term, I think.
Lee
Adam But well she's already shot a ghost.
Adam So, you know.
Lee It's a.
Lee I'm kind of glad that it turned out that one of them was just a ghost, because otherwise it's the story of a detective who just sleeps with everybody who she comes into contact with, which, I mean, I'm sure there are out there in the 90s, probably more than 70s.
Adam I was going to say, I'm sure there are plenty of films like that.
Lee But.
Adam But they aren't, they aren't the remit of our podcast, you know.
Chris I suppose it's like, I mean, this, this does encompass more.
Chris perhaps it's slightly broader than we would necessarily always cover, because of the whole, actually, I mean, we don't always cover that many, kind of serial killer.
Lee No.
Adam And and actually that was another thing I liked about this.
Adam It's because I could see the interest in the 60s through because obviously, I mean, the the sort of gangsters is a given thing and obviously you've got a, you know, like a gay gangster, so you're looking towards like the Crays and things like that, but also around that sort of time in the 60s, there was also the unsolved, Hammersmith Nude murders, and they were sort of, that was like six, sex workers were murdered like in, I think it was like 60, it was 64 and 65, and they've never been solved, so I think and they were kind of, like a few of the suspects in those murders, because like I say, they've never been solved, they they were actually the killer got the nickname Jack the Stripper, but they, but like a few, a few of the suspects were related to like the sort of cd end of crime in the 60s, like Soho and, one of them was a guy called Freddy Mills, who was a boxer, who was like involved with the Richardsons and new like a lot of, you know, when that whole thing where it was like gangland but also celebrities and, you know, every, basically everyone had money, so they were all mixing together and it all, you know, everyone, everyone wanted a bit of the, the 60s promiscuousness, so they were all, everyone wanted a bit of everyone, yeah.
Chris No, have you not seen it yet?
Adam Yeah, everyone wanted a bit of everyone.
Adam Yeah.
Chris Yeah, everyone wanted a bit of everyone.
Adam Yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And and it was mostly how a lot of the power traded.
Adam Because it was then sort of people had things on other people, whether it was gangsters with politicians or with celebrities or whatever like that, and so that I think like a House of Cards, you all got to keep it going, yeah, exactly, everyone's got to keep quiet because as soon as the first one goes and everybody starts rolling on everybody else, then suddenly, yeah, there's chaos, and I mean, I don't know, like am I right about this, there was a reminiscent of kind of Tarantino Esk, I was sort of thinking that with the dialogue and some of the slightly more, you know, amusing bit especially when they're they're about to cut off someone's one finger or the other.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Chris Keep it going.
Lee Yeah.
Chris Everyone's got a.
Lee Yeah.
Chris It's.
Chris Yeah.
Chris And I mean, I don't know, like am I right about this.
Chris There was a reminiscent of kind of Tarantino Esk, I was sort of thinking that with the dialogue and some of the.
Chris slightly more, you know, amusing bits especially when they they're about to cut off someone's one finger or the other.
Adam Yeah, it did, it did have that feel of of like British for me it was like a lot of British gangster movies, good one so I before Guy Ritchie.
Chris Yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Chris Could could.
Adam But they were.
Adam I will.
Adam I will get a slap for that later.
Lee I quite like Guy Ritchie, I was more offended by Chris saying Tarantino.
Chris Well no, right, so, so that's, so that's why I was, I was, I was like, I knew that wouldn't go down perfectly, however, but I I like this.
Lee I like this.
Chris Yeah, no.
Chris But I think, for me, it's it's the way they sort of play off each other.
Chris No, it might, it could be that I am just not well moved enough to have a broader experience of films that do that.
Chris Whereas I think, you know, it's definitely been bits.
Chris Tarantino gets it as it well.
Adam Yeah.
Adam I'll I'll be honest, the one thing that I've really not not to say that it's because it's a it's a different sort of thing entirely, but watching this, I now really have to rewatch performance, because I haven't seen it for a fucking ages, and performance is, like a, it's a gangster movie, but it's very sort of strange and art house, and basically this gangster goes and hides in a gangster goes and hides away in Mick Jagger's house, and, yeah, Mick Jagger is playing like a faded rock star.
Adam It's like the 70s, so it's a bit more it's a bit more sort of down at heel and a bit more, slezy, but basically, yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam This this.
Adam This gangster hides out with this washed up, rock star and then ends up doing loads of acid and listening to a lot of like trippy music and everything, and it all fucking plays out from there and it's very same sort of thing of like sort of gets very sort of psychosexual and odd and people transfer identities and things like that.
Chris Oh, yeah.
Chris You can definitely see, yeah.
Adam It's it's a fucking great film and yeah, that that's what's made me want to go, I'm going to have to rewatch performance because I've watched it for a while anyway, so.
Lee And I, and I, this reminded me that I've only seen, Last Night in Soho, twice, which again, it's that 60s gangster with the slightly supernatural.
Adam Again.
Lee Edgy, but completely different.
Lee But like, you know, it it had the same feel to it.
Chris Yeah, mind, yeah.
Lee Yeah, and when you watch a film like this and it makes you go, oh yeah, I want to go and watch so and so now.
Lee I like, I love that, when you end up as you say down a rabbit hole, where it's like, oh it's similar to this.
Lee And then it leads you onto something else.
Lee And it, yeah.
Lee But yeah, I, I, I was absolutely, because I'd looked looked forward to seeing this quite a lot, as I say, we'd seen the posters where it had been played at the film festivals, and unfortunately, it was on days we hadn't gone to.
Lee but yeah, I was so pleased with this because I was like, I've been looking forward to seeing this for a good six months or so.
Lee And I was like, oh, I hope it doesn't let me down, and it didn't in any way, it was such a fantastic view and we had such a great time watching it.
Lee I even loved the, the almost straight down the barrel delivery of the title of the film.
Lee I love to see that in a film.
Lee It always warms my heart, yeah.
Lee Literally as it was delivered.
Lee Jennifer went, woo.
Adam And at least they didn't say, maybe the burnt flowers were the friends we made along the way.
Lee yes, so, fantastic movie, as we've already said, definitely go and check it out as soon as it becomes available.
Lee If if it's showing at a film festival, even though you kind of know the story, it's the journey with this, it's such a lovely.
Adam Oh, absolutely.
Lee yeah, and it is fantastic.
Lee I was a little bit worried at points at the beginning, that it was, it was going to be like a crime procedural type thing.
Chris But they did break it up well enough.
Lee Yeah, that last act.
Chris It did.
Chris Brought the.
Lee On and you're like, oh, it's been there the whole time.
Lee And we didn't know.
Chris That's why.
Chris Yeah, the whole thing felt like very cleverly done subtle.
Adam You realize quite how warped the reality of it has been from the opening.
Lee Yeah.
Lee So, thanks ever so much for listening everybody, go and check out Burnt Flowers, you won't regret it.
Lee It's an excellent film, well done Michael Fauste and everybody involved.
Lee We can't wait to see what you.
Adam Thank you for letting us see it.
Lee Yeah, thank you.
Lee And we we can't wait to see what you're up to next.
Lee speaking of what we're up to next, we will be back in a Fortnight's time.
Lee For Lady Jennifer's birthday request, we're going to be covering Sightseers.
Chris Oh.
Adam Oh.
Lee Oh, that's going to be a good one.
Chris It's been a long time coming that one.
Lee Oh, it has.
Chris So it's a, it must be like 10 years ago.
Chris Or longer.
Chris You talk.
Lee Yeah, have you not seen it yet?
Chris No.
Lee Oh man, oh, you.
Lee You little bastard.
Lee You just got to watch it, you're just going to fucking roll a coaster.
Adam You just got to watch it.
Lee You'd be ready.
Lee so Steve Oram, obviously you already know.
Lee and Alice Lowe.
Adam Alice Lowe, and Ben Weekley.
Lee Yeah.
Chris And and Alice Lowe is a lead lead role in this, isn't it?
Lee Yes.
Adam Well it was written by Steve Oram and Alice Lowe as well.
Lee So.
Chris Oh, gotcha.
Lee just to warn you, Chris, because I know sometimes you get confused.
Lee It is comedy.
Chris You're gone.
Lee It's the blackest possible.
Chris All right, that's interesting.
Chris I'm going to see how long it would have taken me to realize that then.
Lee time stamp.
Lee Yeah.
Lee So, thanks very much for listening everybody, thanks again to Michael Fauste and everyone involved in this film, and we'll see you all in a fortnight's time for Sightseers.
Lee Good night.
Chris Good night.
Adam Night, night.
Lee That's not my vagina.
