Nope

0:23 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.

0:26 Chris I'm Chris.

0:27 Adam I'm Adam.

0:28 Lee And two of us are COVID free.

0:34 Lee One of us isn't.

0:35 Lee But he is a fucking trooper, so he's still here.

0:39 Lee Credit to him, well done Adam for being here despite having the plague.

0:44 Adam Well, it's just that typical thing of this this is this is what it's like being poor is you only get branded stuff when everyone else has already had it.

0:58 Lee so we're here for a little cheeky bonus episode. we just we wanted to discuss the fact that we've all seen Nope. and it probably isn't enough for a full episode, but equally we didn't kind of want to give it short shrift, on what we've been watching.

1:44 Chris Nope.

1:48 Chris Yeah.

1:54 Chris It deserves what we've been watching.

1:55 Adam It does deserve something, yeah.

1:58 Lee Yeah.

1:59 Lee It does.

1:59 Lee and I am going to break tradition, and I am going to be the first one to give my thoughts on it if that's all right with everyone because I don't think I've ever done that before.

2:07 Adam That's not.

2:09 Lee but, yes, so just to give everyone a recap for those who are unaware.

2:16 Lee Get Out I thought was a fine movie but possibly one of the most overrated movies of all time.

2:24 Lee And I've and I've seen The Godfather.

2:27 Lee

2:29 Lee God, I hate that movie.

2:30 Lee and we're going to get emails about that. and then, Us came out.

2:35 Adam Always.

2:37 Lee I loved the first 45 minutes and was like, yes, this is it. Now I get why everyone's obsessed with him. This is fantastic. I love everything about this and then he managed to somehow shit all over everything you'd achieved to that point.

3:34 Chris Remember, remember that, remember that, what you just said there.

3:37 Lee Oh, right, so that's yeah, well, you wouldn't be the only one, Chris, if that's how you feel about it.

3:42 Lee but yeah, so when this came out, I was like, I'm going to give it a go because I I've still got faith, I've still got faith that he can do it.

3:52 Lee I know he's had two kind of misses so far.

3:55 Adam He is exceptionally skilled, I think.

3:57 Adam Should we should we give the gentleman his name?

3:59 Lee

4:00 Chris Oh, yes.

4:00 Lee Oh, yeah, sorry.

4:02 Chris You you kind of think everyone would know, but yeah, it's good that they.

4:02 Lee We are talking about

4:06 Adam We are talking about Jordan Peele.

4:08 Lee Yes.

4:10 Lee

4:12 Lee Yeah, terrible, you're quite right, I've just raved about him for five minutes and didn't once say his name.

4:17 Lee yes.

4:19 Lee but, this time,

4:21 Lee I feel he did it.

4:24 Lee I think he got his stride in this, I I was I was really into it, he got to get his little nonsense out of the way, like he always has to have something that's got fuck all to do with the film going on and he had that.

4:37 Lee But it didn't detract from the film.

4:41 Lee Like the whole thing with the.

4:43 Lee Go on, Adam.

4:44 Adam What I was going to say?

4:45 Adam But the point the point of it is is it's there to show you why Jupe thought that he could tame the animal.

5:04 Chris

5:09 Lee Oh, okay.

5:11 Adam And also,

5:12 Adam and and also when he's under the table, his eyes are obscured and that obviously relates to OJ working out about don't look the creature in its eyes.

5:23 Chris I I got that from the horse as well.

5:26 Adam Oh, yeah, the yeah, he's a thing that comes up in it a lot, yeah.

5:30 Chris But I think like you said though, it was interesting that it did definitely have a feel like there was no point those flashbacks, I'll give you a link later.

5:45 Lee It's like 25 minutes to tell you two things that he could have very easily, very concisely put in a much easier, more

5:52 Chris But I would almost like, and we're obviously getting into it pretty quickly.

5:56 Chris But I would almost say, for me, that was this whole film was also there was almost no point to it.

6:06 Chris And so then it was like both things sort of had no point exactly, but together they made more sense.

6:12 Chris So I was like, yeah, it wasn't entirely clear to me what the the aim of the story was.

6:22 Chris And I was really expecting there to be something that concluded it in a deep way.

6:31 Lee See, but this is the problem, see, this is the M Night thing that we've said before.

6:34 Lee So you spent the whole film, instead of watching the film and going, it's a really interesting story of some people on a ranch who are plagued by an alien.

6:43 Lee You spent the whole time going.

6:46 Chris What else is there?

6:46 Lee When's the message?

6:49 Chris Right.

6:49 Lee Where's the it just made a film.

6:52 Lee It's a really good film.

6:53 Chris I know.

6:53 Lee And I really enjoyed it.

6:55 Chris So, so, so I'm not, I'm not against that, but it's interesting how almost we both went into it with the opposite expectation.

7:01 Chris and ended up with the opposite result.

7:04 Chris So you went into it expecting low, enjoying it, because to be honest, it's fantastically well constructed, like it's really, you know, I was right from the start, I was hooked, and I was like, yeah, it's great style, I like the characters.

7:18 Chris This all seems like there's it's just really well done.

7:23 Chris But then I was left a bit like, oh, what what what have I missed?

7:27 Adam There is a thing though is that again because you kind of get the bit where they returned to Goldie and you see that sequence and everything.

7:45 Adam But there's there's he has a lovely thing like has a lovely habit of it's almost like drip feeding.

7:57 Adam So you get that bit and you're left to ponder about it and then you get engaged in the main story and you're sort of.

8:06 Adam And then you come.

8:10 Adam you then get where they're at Jupiter's claim and they're talking to Ricky and then it's so, all right, so and also it's quite you've got that nice thing there that it's like.

8:27 Adam You get the idea that Ricky's somewhat more exploitative.

8:31 Lee Yeah.

8:32 Adam Because he's got the hidden museum.

8:36 Adam With the fucking brilliant Mad Magazine cover.

8:39 Adam That is just perfect.

8:41 Adam But and and but then you finally get the whole sort of payoff of it is that Ricky kind of thinks, oh, well, you know, I've I I can survive this sort of thing.

8:55 Adam You know, and actually,

8:58 Adam probably not and doesn't.

9:01 Adam

9:02 Adam but I love the because there's another there's another thing in it which was I sort of noticed on the rewatch because it hadn't occurred it sort of occurred to me the first time and I didn't sort of put two and two together.

9:20 Adam but when the kids like spoke like turn up as aliens.

9:30 Lee Yeah.

9:31 Adam And like tried to scare him.

9:34 Adam There's no explanation that like they've got alien masks with voice changers.

9:40 Adam What the fuck's going on?

9:41 Adam And then at the end it's like, oh, he's actually intending them to be gifts at the gift shop.

9:48 Adam when he has his alien show.

9:51 Chris

9:52 Adam And it's like, it's a nice little thing again where it's like just a weird fucking thing in there that you're like, where did the kids get good alien masks from and stuff like that?

10:01 Adam And then, yeah, it does actually have a.

10:05 Adam explanation again.

10:08 Lee And that's what I like, like it had so many layers and they did all weave in and as you say, like it all meshed with this one for me, like I I think my only criticism

10:20 Lee was possibly that the third act, going into the third act, when they had the plan of how they were going to trap it, going into that, I had no idea.

10:39 Lee Like they had that little meeting and they're all chatting about it and I was like, I I I don't know what they're going to do and I don't know if it was intended to be that way, so you were kind of seeing it as it unraveled.

10:53 Lee But I was like, what, they're setting up all these big wavy thing.

10:56 Lee I don't know what the point of them was.

10:59 Lee I don't know where they were supposed to be leading.

11:01 Chris It was.

11:01 Lee it with the horse.

11:02 Chris Oh, so.

11:02 Lee I know it.

11:04 Chris They were electronic.

11:04 Lee

11:05 Chris They were electric, weren't they?

11:07 Chris So they could then see when they the field was.

11:10 Lee So once it started happening, I could see it, but up to that point where they were talking about the plan, I was like, I don't know what the fuck they're on about.

11:17 Lee Like.

11:18 Adam I think that's a deliberate.

11:18 Lee I don't know.

11:19 Adam Choice again, I think it's like.

11:21 Adam You because you are because it's especially because there's the one bit where they've got the flailing arm inflatable tube and whatever family guy call it.

11:31 Adam I can't remember.

11:33 Adam and and just the horse.

11:40 Adam Yeah.

11:41 Adam And it's like, okay.

11:45 Adam And I also, I have to say fucking as a as a cast, fucking amazing.

11:53 Lee Phenomenal phenomenal cast.

11:55 Adam I mean, relatively small cast or certainly of like main characters and everything else like that, but everyone's fucking great.

12:03 Chris

12:04 Adam And I insist that there is now a website set up called Does Keith David Die.com.

12:09 Lee No.

12:10 Adam Because I can't go through that again, because I was like, Keith David's on my fuck, he's dead.

12:16 Lee You know what and I loved that, it not Keith David died, but like I loved that that idea of just something that's completely random and weird just happening like that.

12:26 Lee And then later on, once it the story unravels, it then all makes sense and it you totally get it.

12:33 Chris That's why it all seemed really clever.

12:35 Chris Like,

12:36 Chris you know, it seemed like there's there's something really impressive going on throughout.

12:41 Chris But it together well constructed.

12:43 Chris Like the details were there and the style was there and just everything about it seemed this is, yeah, or, you know.

12:51 Adam almost masterpiece level.

12:52 Adam Is that what's that lovely thing as well where it's like they just sort of it's been palmed off as oh, there was a problem with an aeroplane and it dropped some metal or whatever like that.

13:09 Adam Where no one's really that bothered.

13:12 Chris

13:13 Adam Oh, right.

13:14 Adam Yeah.

13:14 Adam You know what I mean, like no one feels that it's warranting enough attention to it and it's like, oh, it's just one of them freak things.

13:21 Adam Like when it rained frogs in whatever town.

13:25 Lee I think like, who does who would that come down, like who would you report that to, whose job?

13:30 Adam Oh, yeah, it's.

13:30 Lee It's going to be to look into it to that degree.

13:32 Lee Everyone will just go, yeah, fuck it, it was weird, wasn't it, right?

13:35 Lee And just get on with your day, like what else can you?

13:37 Lee I've got to say you, saying about.

13:40 Lee the way it was all put together and.

13:42 Lee the design and stuff, that alien design I thought was absolutely immense.

13:48 Lee I was like it was so original and so nice to look at.

13:54 Lee Like, yeah, I was totally blown away with that.

13:57 Adam What is it with aliens having to have?

13:59 Adam mouths within mouths within mouths, though.

14:01 Lee Yeah.

14:02 Adam It's it's definitely it's it's definitely a an alien xenomorph feel.

14:07 Lee Yeah.

14:08 Adam But I no, it's that sort of sea creature sort of look like a jellyfish.

14:16 Lee Yeah.

14:17 Adam Kind of.

14:17 Adam Yeah.

14:19 Adam Because I mean,

14:20 Adam essentially it's Jaws.

14:21 Lee Yeah.

14:22 Adam As well,

14:24 Adam which is just really great.

14:25 Adam You've got instead of barrels,

14:26 Adam

14:28 Adam Instead of Quint, you've got Michael Wincott's character with the the cinematographer.

14:34 Chris Yeah, yeah, yeah.

14:39 Lee I love that character as well.

14:40 Lee Like I thought he fit into it really well.

14:44 Lee That kind of so completely different to the the group who we've been following.

14:50 Lee

14:50 Chris Yeah, they've got different interests.

14:52 Lee Yeah.

14:53 Lee Yeah, but they just all mesh because they're going for the same goal.

14:56 Lee

14:57 Lee Yeah, obviously, Daniel as I've raved about him so much.

15:01 Lee I feel I probably shouldn't do anymore or you'll all think I've got a thing for him.

15:05 Lee

15:05 Lee and Kiki Palmer as well.

15:08 Lee who I recently, because I, as I mentioned in the last episode, I've been watching, Scream Queens.

15:11 Adam Scream Queens.

15:20 Lee Yeah.

15:21 Lee Yeah, and she was great in that and I didn't know who she was, before watching Nope.

15:27 Lee And then when I went back and watched that, because obviously it's about eight years old now.

15:32 Lee And I was like, she looks vaguely familiar.

15:33 Lee But she obviously she looked very different to how she did then.

15:41 Lee But yeah, like it it's great to see because I don't know what she's done between.

15:46 Adam No, she doesn't, she she looks looks like she does a lot of voice work, but also she's a singer.

15:51 Lee

15:52 Adam So it's sort of parallel careers.

15:55 Adam as it were.

15:56 Adam But no, I mean, she it's her film.

15:59 Lee Yeah.

16:00 Adam You know, not taking away from anyone else in it, but I mean, yeah.

16:04 Adam And.

16:05 Adam And.

16:06 Adam There's.

16:07 Adam I I mean, I love I love the brother-sister relationship because I think it's a very unique relationship within a film.

16:17 Adam Because.

16:18 Chris Yeah, it was.

16:19 Chris Yeah.

16:19 Adam Because when it's when it's a couple.

16:22 Adam You're kind of like, why have one of you not walked?

16:24 Lee Yeah.

16:24 Adam Do you know what I mean, but it's that sort of thing of you can be antagonistic, but you've got a shared history that means that you know each other.

16:38 Lee Yeah.

16:39 Adam Probably better than anyone else.

16:42 Adam And but also that thing where you sort of regress to being a kid.

16:46 Lee Yeah.

16:47 Adam You know, like I love how excited they are.

16:50 Adam When it's like, I fucking told you we'd bring a non-electric camera.

16:54 Lee Yeah.

16:56 Adam And it's sort of but I think yeah, I think it's a really good dynamic.

17:02 Adam As you know, it.

17:04 Adam You know why they're sticking together.

17:06 Chris Yeah, it feels very believable.

17:08 Chris Even while being very dramatic.

17:10 Chris It's like, you know, it still fits.

17:12 Lee I love the CCTV guy as well, which is like that's exactly the like you can imagine someone who sells CCTV and is into aliens as soon as someone comes in and buys that equipment, they're like, oh, I know what they're up to.

17:25 Lee I need to get in on this.

17:26 Lee Yeah, and I'd like I yeah, I love that the way he kind of bullies his way in and they're like, oh, for fuck's sake.

17:30 Lee We're stuck with him now.

17:31 Lee But.

17:32 Chris And then he's a bit of a weirdo still, you know, useful.

17:34 Adam But also but also sort of he earns his stripes.

17:40 Adam Because there's the bit where he says, hang on, I was in the fucking house.

17:43 Adam When this happened.

17:44 Lee Yeah.

17:44 Adam And like she fist bumps him and it's like when they're when they're arguing with host.

17:51 Adam And.

17:53 Adam also there's a there's a bit that I wondered if you'd spotted Lee.

17:56 Adam you know, I'm going to have to put it as it's written in my notes.

18:03 Adam When Angel gets sucked off,

18:07 Adam and he's covered in barb wire.

18:11 Adam the fence pings and it's the notes of Close Encounters.

18:16 Lee Yes.

18:17 Lee I did.

18:17 Lee I'd forgotten all about that until you just said it.

18:20 Lee Yes, I did, I heard it at time.

18:22 Lee I went, it's fucking close out.

18:24 Lee And I again, like it's those little things that I just.

18:28 Lee I loved about this.

18:29 Lee I mean, yeah, it's great because it just goes to show if you persevere with something, I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not going to watch the new Halloween movie, but if you persevere with something like eventually that gold can sometimes come.

18:41 Lee

18:42 Lee yeah, and that's how I found Jordan Pill's career so far.

18:46 Lee

18:47 Adam Well, you say, you you liked Get Out, you just didn't feel it was get, you know, you just felt it was getting a lot more plaudits than it probably should have had.

18:54 Adam And us was just a a one of those ones that just got under your skin.

19:01 Adam So.

19:02 Lee It it was, but that's the thing, like there's enough merit in both of those that I was like, I I really think he can be a fantastic director and I really, really wish he would just focus on not allowing anyone to rush him.

19:14 Lee Focus on your film, you know, as much as the message underneath it.

19:18 Adam Yeah.

19:20 Lee

19:21 Lee you know, it it's like.

19:23 Lee Dawn of the Dead.

19:23 Lee Like I I'm not a massive fan of Dawn of the Dead.

19:26 Lee I know it's a massive cult classic.

19:27 Lee I'd seen that film half a dozen times before somebody said, oh, but did you know when he wrote it, he's kind of original thought was.

19:36 Lee Oh, it's just, you know, how materialistic are people that if you remove their brain, they would still all go to the to the mall.

19:44 Lee And I was like, oh, yeah, now I can see that, but it works on its own as a film.

19:48 Lee And I felt that he was pushing his messages more than, oh, it doesn't matter if the story doesn't all tie up.

19:55 Lee Because the message is there.

19:57 Lee It's like.

19:57 Lee Yeah, it doesn't it it doesn't work like that.

20:01 Lee You have to complete both circuits or it just doesn't pick up.

20:06 Lee

20:07 Lee yeah, and I just thought this was yeah, this was just him actually landing a a really solid.

20:15 Adam Yeah, it's it's it's it's great.

20:17 Adam I mean, I think probably get out is still my favorite.

20:22 Adam But I mean, I think that this of of his of his three.

20:25 Lee director.

20:27 Adam yeah.

20:28 Adam But I think that and you wrote you wrote all of them as well, didn't he?

20:28 Chris Yeah.

20:32 Adam Yeah.

20:32 Adam I just.

20:33 Adam What I like is I think and it's true of Nope as much as anything else.

20:39 Adam I think in terms of characters.

20:41 Adam I think he just writes great people.

20:42 Chris Yeah, absolutely.

20:43 Adam Yeah.

20:44 Adam And and the whole thing that Nope is because that's how you should fucking react in that situation.

20:49 Lee I did like the fact that it got used on multiple occasions as well.

20:54 Adam Especially because that should be your fucking reaction.

20:57 Adam This weird shit in the stables.

20:58 Adam Nope.

20:59 Lee Yeah.

21:00 Adam Or or the bit where he looks out and it's passing overhead so just put my head down and I'll close the door.

21:06 Lee Yeah.

21:06 Adam And I'll lock it.

21:08 Adam Like that's going to make a difference, but it's Yeah, I just love I love a realistic reaction to

21:12 Adam Yeah.

21:19 Adam the the extraordinary.

21:21 Adam And I think he always he always does that really well.

21:24 Adam And also it was only the second time around that I realized that when you watch the opening credits.

21:30 Adam Again,

21:31 Adam it's that drip feed of information.

21:32 Adam The opening credits are inside jean jacket.

21:39 Adam It's jean jacket's throat with the credits rolling over it and you're like.

21:43 Lee Wow.

21:44 Adam And it doesn't register.

21:46 Adam Because it's just a weird billowing.

21:50 Lee Yeah.

21:51 Adam Aperture.

21:52 Adam You know, there's nothing there.

21:55 Adam And it's and then it goes into the film sequence.

21:58 Adam Like the the old footage.

22:00 Adam Oh, and one thing that I did see pointed out that I think is absolute fucking genius.

22:08 Adam You know when Emerald's giving him the speech.

22:12 Adam And it's like my great, great, great.

22:13 Adam And he shouts over to add another great in.

22:17 Lee Yeah.

22:17 Adam And it's meant to be because she's only parroted.

22:19 Adam Like she's learned it from her dad doing the speech again and again and again.

22:23 Lee Oh.

22:24 Adam But obviously she misses out a great because it was his yeah.

22:28 Lee Yeah.

22:29 Lee because it's an extra generation.

22:30 Lee Yeah.

22:31 Adam Yeah.

22:34 Lee Nice.

22:35 Adam Which again, just yeah.

22:37 Adam Also there's a there's a Goonies reference in here.

22:41 Adam they eat at.

22:43 Adam What is it, Copperpot's Cove.

22:46 Adam Which is apparently a re like, which is apparently a reference to.

22:49 Lee Yes, when they go when they go into the caves.

22:53 Lee and they find the dead body, it's Chester Copperpot is the man.

22:56 Lee Who went missing.

22:57 Adam Yeah.

22:58 Adam Yeah.

22:59 Adam So, yes.

23:00 Chris So he's he's good with references.

23:04 Chris He certainly knows, you know.

23:06 Adam But I like I like the fact they're not just it's not just like.

23:12 Adam Sometimes you get with say, for example, some seasons of American Horror Story, where it's not just like, oh, I'm just going to do.

23:21 Adam I'm going to do exactly that, but it's me filming it, so it's different.

23:25 Lee Yeah.

23:25 Adam You know, this is this is something like a bite slide from Akira in Jaws but with an alien.

23:34 Lee Yes.

23:36 Adam You know, there's it it all works where it should work.

23:42 Lee Yeah.

23:42 Lee I I yeah, I was just yeah, totally blown away by it.

23:46 Lee I

23:51 Lee Yeah, I I think I went in with low expectations, I'll admit.

23:55 Lee But I I mean, even if I'd gone in with high expectations, this film would have would have met it, I just thought it was phenomenal.

24:05 Lee And yeah.

24:06 Lee I say it's it did a lot of things in a slower way than needed to be done, but that didn't detract from the movie.

24:15 Adam It's weird.

24:16 Adam Because because I did think to myself when I was when I was watching it again, is I thought, oh, I.

24:24 Adam I will I'll probably find it a bit draggy.

24:29 Adam because I know it's like two hours plus.

24:32 Adam And in actual fact, it probably isn't.

24:35 Adam It feels like it might be the right length, it's just in my head, I naturally assume if it's film two hours plus, you probably should have shaved a bit off.

24:41 Lee It feels like it.

24:42 Adam Yeah.

24:43 Lee Yeah.

24:43 Adam I don't think you do.

24:44 Lee Yeah.

24:45 Lee I I found it perfectly, perfectly placed.

24:48 Lee the other thing I loved as well, with any film like this where you've got a big plan at the end.

24:53 Lee to kill the big bad, something always turns up and fucks with that.

24:56 Lee I love the idea that it was a media dickhead on a motor bike.

24:59 Lee Like that.

25:00 Adam Oh, yeah, just freelancer from fucking yeah.

25:04 Lee Love that.

25:05 Adam Who without actually without ever showing his face, you just know what a prick he is.

25:09 Adam It's just, yeah.

25:12 Adam And actually that's again, that sort of thing of even in the even in like sort of high drama stakes and everything else like that, it's just that lovely bit with, well, now we're going to see what happens when an electric motorbike runs into a blackout power out.

25:29 Lee And just.

25:29 Adam And just boom.

25:34 Lee Yeah.

25:35 Lee You know what?

25:35 Lee I talking about it now, I want to go and rewatch it now.

25:40 Lee But

25:41 Adam Cuz yeah.

25:42 Lee Because.

25:43 Lee Yeah, I just it it's got fantastic rewatchability as well.

25:45 Lee I think.

25:46 Lee Like you said, Adam, you know, when you go back the second time and then you get the when you see the credits.

25:50 Lee Because I've got to admit, I haven't rewatched it, I didn't I didn't find time, unfortunately.

25:55 Lee But yeah, I I think you're right, I think it this is the type of film that will hold up to multiple views.

26:00 Lee Because I think he does put those little Easter eggs in there.

26:03 Adam Yeah.

26:03 Lee quite a lot.

26:04 Adam You do spend a lot of time going.

26:06 Adam

26:07 Lee Yeah.

26:07 Adam on the second viewing.

26:10 Adam Yeah.

26:11 Adam But not in that sort of way that you do when it's like if there's a mystery to be solved and it's like, well, I know who's done it now.

26:18 Lee Yeah.

26:19 Adam You know, this is a because there's so much sort of sitting in there.

26:24 Adam that you can enjoy.

26:27 Adam also, apparently, Jupiter's claim is now part of Universal's permanent backlot, like Universal Studios theme park.

26:36 Adam So.

26:37 Lee Oh, nice.

26:38 Adam and is currently the Haunted House Maze for Halloween this year.

26:44 Chris Excellent.

26:45 Lee Awesome.

26:49 Adam I think the one thing that I really want to say about Nope though is that.

26:55 Adam There was a there was a guy who saw Nope and he went onto Twitter and said that Jordan Peele was the greatest horror director of all time.

27:06 Adam And Jordan Peele replied to him saying, I love your enthusiasm, but I will not tolerate any John Carpenter slang.

27:14 Chris Yeah.

27:17 Chris So that's his favorite.

27:19 Adam There's the man who knows his movies.

27:21 Lee Go on, yeah.

27:22 Adam Absolutely.

27:25 Lee Oh, yeah.

27:26 Lee I just I've got great hopes for the future now.

27:29 Lee

27:29 Adam I think he's going to do a string of just interesting stuff.

27:35 Lee I'm really hoping.

27:35 Lee So these three films are so hugely different, and I think like you say.

27:41 Lee Like with a John Carpenter.

27:43 Lee That's the sign of a really good director where the films are, you know, regardless of how much I enjoyed them.

27:48 Lee All they are hugely different feeling movie,

27:53 Lee Yeah.

27:53 Lee And hopefully he will continue and and I think that's why he was possibly a great pick for when he did

27:58 Lee the Twilight Zone.

28:04 Lee Yeah.

28:05 Lee I I found those pretty hit and miss, but those type of shows always are a bit, to be fair.

28:11 Adam I I think the mistake was also that they started remaking old ones.

28:15 Lee Yeah.

28:16 Adam Which you know.

28:19 Lee Yeah.

28:19 Adam At that point you probably at that point you should have you should just ring up Reese Shearsmith and Steve Pemb and ask what's in their bin.

28:27 Lee Yeah.

28:29 Adam Because they're probably chucking out fucking stuff that most people would pay their.

28:33 Lee 100%.

28:36 Lee

28:36 Lee excellent.

28:36 Lee Right.

28:37 Lee So.

28:37 Lee Let's wrap it up there for this cheeky little bonus episode.

28:42 Lee as it is the Halloween season, we just wanted to give you something a little bit extra and as we say, we we did feel that this film,

28:52 Lee although not necessarily in the horror genre, definitely.

28:55 Lee is.

28:55 Chris Enough elements.

28:56 Lee Yeah.

28:57 Adam It's it's horror.

28:58 Lee Yeah.

28:59 Adam Are you sure it's horror?

28:59 Lee It's it's adjacent and it definitely needed some time and after I'd been so cruel about him possibly on us.

29:04 Lee

29:04 Lee Yeah.

29:05 Lee yeah, I didn't want to I didn't want it to look like I'd just gone and then he made a good film, but we're not going to talk about that.

29:14 Lee So.

29:15 Lee Yeah, I thought I'd like to put the record straight and say,

29:19 Lee not just I fucking told you he could do it.

29:22 Lee But, yeah.

29:23 Lee Just so.

29:23 Lee Yeah.

29:24 Adam He fucking done it.

29:24 Lee He did do it.

29:26 Chris It does seem like he absolutely made this how he wanted to.

29:29 Lee Yeah.

29:30 Chris Like it all seems like he ignored any else and was just like, yeah, I want this.

29:35 Lee I mean, I still stand with that statement for us, I feel Get Out was massive and Us was half written.

29:42 Lee and then rushed out because like, oh, it came out 12 months ago.

29:46 Lee You need to get the next film in the cinema, just fucking do it and I don't think he had enough time.

29:52 Lee And I think.

29:53 Lee if he'd been given the time he needed to really work on it, he could have ironed a lot of that stuff out.

29:58 Lee That's just my opinion, how I felt.

30:01 Adam We could have been talking about a great trilogy.

30:04 Lee Yeah.

30:05 Lee But unfortunately, I think after that massive hit, I think the studios were probably like, if you don't do it in the next six months, everyone's going to forget who you are.

30:12 Lee So just get it out now.

30:13 Lee Regardless.

30:15 Lee which is a terrible way to do it, but I'm sure in business that is precisely what they were doing, you know.

30:22 Adam That is why all businessmen are our souls.

30:25 Lee Yeah.

30:26 Adam Who never understand an artist.

30:30 Lee No.

30:31 Adam Or a drunk.

30:32 Lee But you got there in the end.

30:34 Lee Excellent.

30:34 Lee Right.

30:35 Lee So.

30:36 Lee Thanks ever so much for listening everybody.

30:38 Lee this is a cheeky bonus episode and we will be back in a week's time.

30:43 Lee Actually a week's time, I know I say that every time we record it.

30:45 Lee It never is because it's a fortnight.

30:47 Lee but we will be back in a week's time for Return of the Living Dead.

30:52 Adam Oh.

30:52 Lee So.

30:52 Lee Thanks ever so much for listening and good night.

30:54 Chris Good night.