All about Evil
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September features a double bill of “Camp Horror”, and we kick off with “All About Evil” directed by Joshua Grannell aka Peaches Christ. A film for movies lovers everywhere as talking on your phone in the cinema becomes a capital crime; Elvira embraces her maternal side; and Mink Stole learns the end of that rhyme about snitches. “All About Evil” always felt set to be a cult classic and deserves far greater recognition. Now, with Natasha Lyonne’s star in the ascendant, streaming on Shudder and an excellent bluray from Severin Films, hopefully more people will get to see this macabre comedy - watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers, and join us.
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Unknown Good evening and welcome to Horror.
Lee I'm Lee.
Chris I'm Chris.
Adam I'm Adam.
Lee And we are here for episode 151, who'd have thought we'd have made it this far?
Adam The thing is.
Lee The
Chris one of us maybe, but.
Adam It's it it does explain why we sort of top-loaded the first 30 episodes.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Well, yeah, after a while we got to like, we'll get round to it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam But.
Chris But they still keep coming, they still keep coming.
Adam That's true. And reassuringly they keep making them. Yes, ones that are either worth watching or, you know, genuinely good or worth knowing about.
Lee Or worth ripping to pieces because you hate them so much.
Chris Oh, oh, oh, is that a hint?
Lee No, no.
Lee So, definitely not for this evening's episode, we are here for the first part of our Camp Horror month with the quite frankly spectacular spoiling it already. 2010 movie All About Evil.
Lee A movie that myself and Adam were marginally obsessed with when it first came out, and oh my God, does it hold up?
Lee But before we get too excited, just to remind you all, there will be spoilers and there will be swearing, so buckle the fuck up, because it is coming.
Lee
Adam I think, I think before we, I think before we embark on our Camp Horror.
Adam thing.
Adam I've just going to read this out, which is a quote from Susan Sontag, which is, so we're, we're very.
Adam Very suffice on this, yeah, you know.
Adam Yes.
Adam defining, she had a essay notes on camp, and camp.
Adam A sensibility that revels in artifice, stylisation, theatricalisation, irony, playfulness and exaggeration, rather than content.
Adam Now.
Adam I'm not sure about the last part, but I think it does definitely embrace the two movies that we've picked, certainly.
Lee Oh, without a shadow of a doubt.
Lee And I've got to say of all of my favorite sub-genres, it's this and comedy horror for me.
Lee Like I love my gore and slashers and I like my real horror.
Lee But comedy horror and camp horror, particularly, I just love to bits.
Adam They're they're pretty much the same.
Adam In many ways, you know, I think, I mean, a horror itself.
Adam has a camp element anyway.
Lee
Adam You know, hammer can be camp, it's anything that's sort of, because, you know, as soon as it's melodrama, that's camp, essentially, on this, certainly on that sort of quote.
Adam So I think it's, it's, it's a vein that runs through it and I think that's why.
Adam Certainly sort of people such as Peaches Christ embrace horror so much, you know.
Adam I think it's.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee And and I am going to get to you Chris because obviously I want your first thoughts.
Lee But just while I'm thinking of it, because you've mentioned it, yeah, one of the main things I loved about it.
Lee I knew we were in for a good ride the first time we put this in the DVD player, when that title sequence started running and it was all those classic amazing movies that they switched.
Lee And I was like, right, this is someone who knows what they're talking about, really cares about horror.
Lee yeah, and I was like, right, this isn't just, because I think I'd heard about it from one person and they'd gone mental over it.
Lee But I was like, well, it's only one person's opinion, but on person's opinions.
Lee Let's jump to Chris, Chris on your first viewing.
Lee What did you make of All About Evil?
Chris So.
Chris Now, it takes me a little bit to fully appreciate a slasher.
Lee
Chris I think I've said that before.
Chris this this has got everything going for it.
Chris So now I I was trying to see who I recognized.
Chris I do only recognize Natasha Lyonne.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Natasha Lyonne.
Chris Yeah, Lyonne.
Chris Okay.
Chris yeah, from American Pie originally and or at least that's the first thing I saw in and then Russian Doll.
Chris but yeah, and she always comes across as as likable but deep and slightly edgy.
Chris but yeah, and so so I guess what I would like is is for both of you to to tell me it to talk about it so that yeah.
Chris I think I want to fully appreciate it from your perspectives first.
Lee That's fair.
Lee That sounds good.
Lee Adam, would you like to.
Adam Well, I well on the sort of back story of it, who was it who recommended it to you, Lee?
Adam Because I can't remember.
Lee So I used to listen to a podcast called Drunken Zombie.
Lee And they used to have a guy called Patrick who used to call in.
Lee and he was mental, like seriously, he used to, when he used to do his phone ins, he used to do it walking down the street and he'd just stopped to scream at people in the street.
Lee Like he was entertaining, but he was a big part of the LGBTQ scene in, New York at the time.
Lee So when the film got launched, he got invited to the opening thing.
Lee and he did a whole episode on it basically saying, look, me and my boyfriend got tickets, we went, we got lost on the way to the theater, it was pissing down with rain and we weren't ready, we didn't have time to eat, like, I got to the theater and couldn't have been less in the mood for the film.
Lee He said, and I came away having one of the greatest cinema experiences of my life because it was, the film was outstanding.
Lee And all the hype and everything that went on with it was phenomenal.
Lee And he just raved about it so much and obviously he mentioned that Mink Stole was in it and Cassandra Peterson was in it.
Lee and I was like, oh my God.
Lee Like I need to get hold of this.
Lee and it was still in a pre-order situation, so I pre-ordered it.
Chris So.
Lee yeah, and when it turned up, I I held on to it for two days because I was like I can't watch it without Dean and Adam.
Lee But I was like, oh, I can't wait, yeah, and that first time of just us sitting down and cracking a beer and watching it was like.
Chris Right, so let me let me interject slightly then, so why, I don't know why, I'm slightly uncomfortable with it.
Chris So because it's got everything going for it and I just can't tell if it's just me.
Chris almost like if I watched it a few times, but is it something about the fact that they're kind of meant to be real.
Chris Well, I mean, they they are real in the film, what's happening.
Chris But so I don't know if that somehow puts me slightly.
Adam What, what you can't quite g for them as they are, the murders.
Chris Well, or just the whole idea of of
Chris You know, potentially snuff films seems odd.
Adam It's it's certainly one that you it's it was weird because someone asked what film we were doing next.
Adam And I explained it was all about evil.
Adam And it was, oh, and then I was like, oh, it's all about evil and I then realized probably a lot of people don't know the film.
Adam So I put in a little explanation and it was like.
Adam Oh, it's like a black comedy about a cinema owner who starts making their own snuff films.
Adam And it was at that point that I thought, that really doesn't sound like a comedy.
Chris No.
Adam It sounds like a film you didn't.
Chris But that's it, that's it. So that that's the bit that's.
Adam I didn't.
Chris But that's it. So so the actual the film is enjoyable, but it's somehow just that feels like it's hard for me to fully get over that as a, you know, a slogan for it.
Adam Maybe that's, maybe that's where the.
Adam The element of camp comes in, I think.
Chris Yeah, so absolutely.
Chris So that like if if it wasn't, I think I would probably hate it.
Adam Yes.
Adam The absurdity of it is what sells it.
Chris Yeah.
Adam In that sense.
Lee I I loved that that absurdity and the fact it's such an original idea.
Lee You know, a lot of independent filmmakers, as we've said before.
Lee We'll take kind of very well-trodden stories for their kind of first attempt.
Lee whereas this just felt so original and so fresh.
Lee yeah, and that was what I loved about it.
Lee And it's it is a very dark tale, as you say, if you if you think about it on paper, but it's handled so well and with such a a great level of comedy.
Lee yeah, that I just, I I I loved every minute of it, and I still.
Adam See.
Adam See, I think, because also around, around the time that you got this.
Adam Because I I remember you actually, because you you had to sort of explain it to us.
Adam And obviously, you mentioned, like Peaches Christ who wrote and directed it.
Adam and didn't, didn't you get a letter.
Adam When you ordered it, Lee, like because it was obviously from.
Lee Direct from her, wasn't it?
Adam Or like from her website.
Lee It was no, no, no, that was that was a different one from someone else.
Lee
Adam
Lee but yeah, I think when I pre-ordered it, it was supposed to come with like a signed copy of the poster or something as part of the pre-order.
Lee which unfortunately didn't.
Lee So I was a bit put out about that, but.
Lee But then I enjoyed the film so much that I genuinely was like, you know what, I have.
Chris Forgive that.
Lee I have had my money's worth out of this DVD over the years because I think this must have been the maybe the dozenth time that I've seen it.
Lee Which is why I was most surprised when I told Jennifer about it and she went, yeah, that doesn't sound familiar at all.
Lee So she sat down and watched it with me tonight.
Lee and absolutely loved it, but she did say, it does give teachers a bad name, because that Miss Morehouse, is her name, is an absolute prick.
Adam Was her.
Lee Was her exact words.
Adam That that's prob, that's probably weirdly enough the only bit of this that sort of works to a different time or gives you an insight into a different time.
Adam where that is seen as an absurd thing.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Whereas now it would be, no, genuinely do make sure you've intervened on this, because, you know, school shootings are now a thing.
Lee
Adam I mean, not not to put horrible sort of moments into it or whatever like that.
Adam But apparently that is the number one cause of teenage death in America these days.
Adam Above accidents, drugs, anything else, yeah, that is the most likely reason.
Adam So I think now it would probably not, that bit would probably not be as overdone.
Adam Even though it is the whole thing about, if you like horror films, you must be a weirdo.
Lee You must be a weirdo.
Adam Yeah, it's the it's kind of like the Satanic Panic thing and stuff like that where it's like you play Dungeons and Dragons, therefore.
Adam It's the same reason that.
Chris Yeah, yeah.
Adam I can't remember which is which Toy Story, there's a toy shop that won't sell Harry Potter because it's like Harry Potter stuff, because it's.
Adam It's yeah, the entertainer will not sell Harry Potter stuff because their owner is like hardline Christian and is like it's magic and wizards and stuff, so it's the dark arts.
Chris So it's like corrupting, yeah.
Adam It's satanic, yeah, so.
Lee Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Adam Not only that.
Lee Oh, yeah, yeah.
Adam Yeah, absolutely.
Adam Not not only that, but also call yourself a businessman.
Lee Oh.
Adam Yeah, let's ignore one of like the the most successful fucking franchises.
Chris Yeah.
Adam You know, but anyway, I mean, but that's sort of beside the point.
Adam But, but I remember when we, when we watched this.
Adam Now, here's the thing.
Adam I would, I would have at the drop of a hat recommended this film to anyone.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And I yesterday was literally the second time ever that I've seen it.
Adam I've only seen it once at yours, Lee, because I couldn't get hold of a copy of the DVD.
Adam Because it was a fairly limited run and it was gone.
Adam Basically.
Adam I think, I think at one point I did see because it was one of those things where it was like, oh yeah, all about evil.
Adam No, I'll I'll get that because I'll watch that again.
Adam And by then, I think there was copies changing hands for sort of inflated prices and it was like, oh, well, you know, didn't see the thing.
Adam and so the fact that they've released a Blu-ray, Seven have released this on Blu-ray, it's fantastic and it's on Shutter.
Adam So more people hopefully will see this.
Lee I'm definitely going to pick up the Blu-ray of it, because I've still got the original DVD copy that I've got.
Lee Which, I mean, which is it's fantastic quality for a lower budget release.
Lee but yeah, if it's on Blu-ray, I will absolutely be getting hold of that.
Adam this couple.
Adam Yeah, getting quick, it's got the soundtrack on CD with it.
Lee
Adam and, like loads of, it's got the extras that were on the DVD that you've got and additional stuff as well.
Lee Yeah.
Adam so, and it's all pretty good and it looks it looks great as well.
Adam But I think at the time, particularly Dean and then and through Dean, I was getting into John Waters' stuff.
Adam And again, we were bringing them around to you, Lee, so we.
Adam And that is definitely how I feel All About Evil is.
Adam Is it feels like a John Waters film.
Lee Yeah, absolutely.
Adam I I ended up, when I was watching it, I ended up with like a load of sort of fantasy double bills in my head of what you could pair this with.
Adam And one of them was Be demented.
Lee Yeah, without a doubt.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Adam That.
Adam That which is probably on an equal pegging with Female Trouble being my favorite John Waters movie.
Adam So, Be demented is the story of a director who kidnaps an actress.
Adam In like a famous but sort of not doing anything worthy actress and forces her to make good films.
Adam It's like they're basically like an artistic terrorist movement.
Adam
Adam And I think actually that.
Chris That's another idea.
Lee It's funny you.
Lee I was going to say Jennifer said exactly the same, she was like, this would be a perfect double film bill with Popcorn.
Lee And I was like, that's another one of my favorites.
Chris Oh, yeah.
Chris Yeah, you have mentioned that a few times.
Adam I also think because of the classic sort of like the classic nature that Debora is going for, I mean, that's that's just immediately fantastic.
Lee Yeah.
Adam I get the feeling that that was either someone they knew or it was a joke that sort of was the basis of why she's called Deborah.
Adam Because there was no, it's Debora.
Adam but I like like she makes sort of stuff that's.
Adam Obviously like very, a lot of it is historically set, supposedly.
Adam
Adam And so again, the other thing I was thinking you pair it with is Theatre of Blood.
Lee Yes.
Adam You know, because I think in a very similar and even the fact you end up with a rooftop like demont at the end sort of would feel very Theatre of Blood as well.
Adam And again, I think it's like Theatre of Blood where it's that that has that sensibility where you're like.
Adam Yeah, that if this was real life.
Adam This is ghastly people.
Chris Yeah.
Adam But it's not real life, so we can enjoy this, and it's just fucking mad.
Lee It's one of those fantastic movies to enjoy with like.
Lee I've seen this film probably seven or eight times on my own.
Lee But it is a great group watch.
Lee It is one of those.
Chris So that's it, that's what I was thinking.
Chris Yeah, definitely, I think it would have worked fantastically well.
Lee Get a few of you together, a few too many beers, chuck this on, it is absolutely perfect.
Lee yeah, and it's a it's a lovely short film as well, it's, you know, hour and 39 or whatever.
Lee Yeah.
Lee And the story moves along really nicely, it doesn't have any slow bits, it doesn't feel rushed any time.
Lee It's just, yeah, it's just.
Chris The characters are all great.
Lee Yeah.
Adam It gets, yeah, it gets it gets into the premise quickly and doesn't even let up.
Chris Yeah, yeah, it's very true.
Adam There's there's almost like a jump scare where it's like, Deborah, Mr. Twig, like cover up the murder of her mom.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And then the next thing you know, oh, we'll drug this one because she was annoying.
Adam You know, which is.
Adam But it's a conversation that's obviously taken place off screen.
Chris But you don't see anything cuts up to that.
Adam You don't see anything that cuts up to that.
Adam but I like that, yeah, like you say, it just gets on with it.
Adam And.
Chris And also it just.
Chris It seems to do everything right.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Maybe I think it's again, it's one of those things where I think if it's if it hits if it hits you on the wrong note or whatever like that, I think it could be.
Adam Because I know like I watched the making of, which is got Joshua Granelle, aka Peaches Christ.
Adam and the producer and the majority of the actors are in it.
Adam And also that that completely threw me because the one thing I was going all the way through.
Adam Was because I was trying to remember who, Stephen was like because I was like, I know you from fucking something.
Lee Oh, Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Adam Yeah, it's the Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Adam And I was like, oh, yeah, that finally that penny dropped but only afterwards.
Adam And.
Lee He was also, he was brilliant in, he was in a show for, I think it was a Netflix original called Backstrom, which was, which was basically him living with a slightly mental detective, who was played by the guy who gets turned into a fish from House of 1000 Corpses.
Adam Oh, Bill.
Lee Hader.
Lee Yeah, I can't remember his name at the moment.
Lee I've only got one screen, unfortunately.
Lee
Lee But yeah, and and that's a fantastic, that was another one when I saw it and I was like, oh, man, that was such a great series.
Lee But they just did the one and and didn't go back to it, unfortunately.
Adam Yeah, Thomas Decker, who plays Steven.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Who is also in, I've never seen it, but he plays David McGowan in John Carpenter's remake of Village of the Damned.
Lee Oh, okay.
Adam so he must be like the main creepy kid.
Adam At Midwich.
Adam
Adam And he's in the Nightmare on Elm Street remake.
Lee Oh, he's he's the main character, I believe in the Nightmare on Elm Street remake.
Lee Which, yeah, I don't worry.
Lee Thomas Tecker, I'm not holding that against you.
Adam But but obviously because I mean it's funny, it's funny that you said obviously you recognized Natasha Lyonne, Chris, Mink Stole, who played Evelyn, the like the librarian who gets her lip song shot.
Adam She is a John Waters regular, John Waters basically had a has a repertoire a repertoire company, essentially.
Lee Oh, that's the last thing they.
Lee Are we reputable?
Adam Oh, that's yeah.
Adam Not reputable.
Adam yeah, they're called the Dreamlanders.
Adam Because of John Waters does John Waters' Dreamlands Productions.
Adam So she's in loads of
Adam She's in most, I think, I think she's been pretty much every John Waters film.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Give or take.
Adam
Adam But so but she's also in but I'm a cheerleader with Natasha Lyonne.
Adam and she was on like Married With Children, so she sort of does stuff here and there.
Adam But really she's it's for John Waters that she's known.
Adam So she was definitely a familiar face when watching it.
Adam Me and Lee both already had an obsession with Natasha Lyonne.
Adam I mean, with me, it was mostly because of Confessions of a Trick Baby.
Adam which is just a a fucking mental film.
Adam it's actually, it's actually the sequel to a kind of the sequel to a film called Freeway.
Adam which is basically Red Riding Hood told through the prism of like a trashy, true crime movie.
Adam basically Reese Witherspoon gets picked up by, a predatory nonce played by, Keith Sutherland.
Adam and rather than like get Granny eaten, she just takes his gun off him and puts him in a fucking wheelchair.
Adam But he's still coming after her, even though he is like, covered in reconstructive surgery stuff.
Adam And Confessions of a Trick Baby, Natasha Lyonne plays a character called White Girl and, basically she ends up escaping from.
Adam what's the a juvenile hall where she's like, she's an American cult store.
Adam Yeah.
Adam like her, and basically she escapes and goes on a lesbian killing spree with, another inmate and it's, yeah, again.
Adam Very fucked up, very John Watersy.
Adam And it's sort of, yeah, it's a trajectory where you feel like, I can see why All About Evil sort of is definitely in in her wheelhouse, you know.
Chris Yeah, yeah.
Adam But the other name that you probably, you, did you recognize Stephen's mom?
Chris No.
Lee You will after their next episode.
Chris Come on.
Chris I won't.
Adam That was Elvira, Mistress of the Dark.
Chris Oh, right.
Chris Okay.
Adam So.
Lee That's.
Chris Oh.
Adam
Lee Which is funny that he had the poster above the bed of Elvira.
Adam Funny or questionable because it does suggest he's not one out of his got money.
Chris Well.
Adam And I'll leave it there.
Chris But so so how many references were actually in this in total?
Adam I think there's only that, that's the only Elvira reference that he's just got the poster.
Adam But but oddly enough, that's right for his room.
Adam He's got all the horror modern model stuff and the other horror film posters and stuff like that.
Adam Elvira's Elvira would be an obvious thing in there, even if Cassandra Peterson wasn't in the film.
Adam And obviously.
Chris So when was when was Elvira big, what was?
Adam I'm not even.
Adam Going to rise to that.
Chris No, okay.
Lee So.
Lee so I I think Elvira's mainstay was in the eighties.
Lee
Lee Again, it was that thing of they had a they had a late night slot and they had lots of films that were public domain, but just whacking on some old black and white horror movies didn't necessarily get the audience in.
Lee So they were like, well if we get a host.
Adam It's a tradition, isn't it? It's a it's a very we've spoken about it before the American tradition of you had horror hosts.
Adam But Elvira was Elvira was the sort of in the eighties and nineties was the recognized horror host.
Adam
Adam And yeah, so, but I mean, obviously, I mean, she's still, I mean, she's still out there, she's still presenting and doing this and that and everything else like that.
Chris Okay.
Adam and yeah, I mean, sort of but like I say, I mean, obviously, we'll get more into that next week when we cover Mistress of the Dark.
Adam But.
Adam I have to say, she's fucking good in this because there is not a hint of Elvira.
Chris That's interesting.
Adam You know, this if you.
Adam Well, here's that is actually that is brilliant because that is my proof of concept.
Adam Chris has watched this and just thought there's an actress playing someone in a drag.
Lee Yeah.
Lee And didn't.
Chris Not at all.
Adam Which is.
Adam Yeah.
Chris Not not that I mean I often don't recognize people very well, so I may not be the perfect here, but yeah, no, it's funny how that. I mean, reminds me of Marilyn Monroe.
Chris There was there was a story about her on the underground and she was not dressed up as that and as she would normally be, nobody noticed her, and she's talking to this reporter, and then she gets off, steps out into New York City, and just starts doing her moves, and suddenly she's people are clambering around her and she's like, oh yeah, she's now become this, everyone recognizes her.
Chris But when she's just being normal, she can get away with it.
Chris It's like it's funny how that.
Adam Well, I think.
Chris It's it's it's noticing the characteristics.
Adam I think it's but yeah, I think certainly in terms of like Elvira, Elvira is a costume.
Chris Yeah.
Adam You know, it's not it's not even like an image or something like that.
Adam You know, you you can probably see Keanu Reeves walk around and he might look like John Wick.
Adam Or he might look like Constantine or whatever.
Adam But yeah, Elvira out of the costume is utterly un-Elvira.
Lee Yeah, it just goes to show you how much of a character she'd created.
Lee So as you say, it isn't just the look, it's actually she created this entire persona.
Adam Persona.
Adam Essentially, it's drag.
Lee Yeah.
Adam It's much.
Adam In the same way she you like, for example, obviously Peaches Christ is in the film.
Lee Looking amazing, I've got to say.
Lee Like just.
Adam But you would not necessarily recognize her out of drag.
Lee
Adam So.
Adam Because but apparently when I was watching the making of, like, Joshua Grenelle, Peaches Christ, whichever you want to go.
Adam I mean, that's he it's Joshua Grenelle is who's the credited director.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So, you know, and Peaches Christ is a credited character.
Adam So it's yeah.
Adam but apparently when they were making it, he, would, obviously if he's playing.
Adam he's the only one who can do the Peaches Christ makeup.
Adam Like, you know, drag queens do their own look.
Adam and so if he was playing, if he was going to be on set as Peaches Christ in the film, he would have to come in in full makeup.
Adam Not the not the dress and the hair, but in the makeup.
Adam Yeah, and so they said it was a very weird experience filming it.
Adam Because the makeup looks disdainful, it's like.
Lee Yeah.
Adam It's like, it's naturally done to look slightly sneery.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And loads of the actors said, we really lost confidence if he was ever in the makeup, because we were he he immediately looked like that.
Chris It feels like.
Lee Yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Adam You know.
Lee I was trying to work out.
Lee How tall Joshua Grenelle must be, because there's a point at which he's clearly, obviously, when he's as Peaches Christ with the massive wig on and the heels.
Lee But there's a point where she's standing in the door of the and everybody else is coming through and is, you know, sort of a third of the door up and she has to duck to get under the door.
Lee And I was like, he's got to be a really tall dude before he before he goes into change because he's just, yeah, massive.
Adam Oh, yeah.
Adam And you've got Heckle, who is another San Francisco drag queen.
Adam In there as well.
Adam Who is named after, the Icelandic volcano.
Lee Oh.
Adam That we talked about in the Northman.
Lee Oh, right.
Adam Yes.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But like Peaches Christ, so.
Adam Peaches Christ is like quite big in the San Francisco, is big in the drag drag scene in San Francisco and all over, really.
Adam but hosted a thing called Midnight Mass for 12 years, which was like a, basically it was showing cult and excuse me.
Adam Showing like cult cinema and, like modern and old.
Adam Mostly like a lot of horror films, obviously.
Adam And getting guests into talks like have guests like Mink Stole and Elvira, but also like Linda Blair, RuPaul.
Adam Mary Warhoff and John and John John Waters and sort of like were all guests there.
Adam And yeah, basically that ran for about 12 years and was like a massive regular sort of thing in San Francisco.
Adam And he he still now does a horror house every Halloween.
Lee Nice.
Adam And apparently like Peaches Christ's horror house is some of the best ones on the on the scene.
Adam You know.
Adam And yeah, and Midnight Mass is now the name of Peaches Christ's podcast.
Adam Which is basically the same thing, they just go through, they do what we do, watch old movies and talk about them.
Lee Oh, I will be listening to that next week.
Adam Well, fun, funnily enough, I did notice that one of them was the launch party episode for this.
Lee Oh.
Adam for all about evil, I listen to that and that was really, that was really good.
Adam And it had on there like the composer and oh, and the the guy who plays the school principal.
Adam Who in the because there's a short film that Peaches Christ made called Grindhouse, which is and that was pre Tarantino Rodriguez.
Adam And and which is basically the plot of this, but it was like a short that it was like he he describes it as a proof of concept.
Adam That it's almost just like, right.
Adam I've got this idea, but actually I can do more with this idea.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So I think it was just it's it's but it that is included on the Blu-ray as well.
Lee I'll definitely be that up in the week.
Adam The the person who plays the principal in All About Evil plays the mother in because here's Drag Queen, no, real name.
Adam what is it is it Spence, but what is it it's come on.
Adam Timmy Spence, thank God for that because I was going to say Jimmy.
Adam So, but Timmy Spence, whose drag queen name apparently was Lois Turd.
Lee Oh.
Adam So, yeah, and yeah, really sort of there's a lot of, I think there's the nurse in this played the original Debora.
Adam but.
Adam Natasha Lyonne actually got the job because she was in a film called Slums of Beverly Hills.
Lee She she's done quite a lot, hasn't she? She has done a ton.
Lee
Adam I've got I've, well, I've got the, I've got the details here, so.
Adam First major acting first acting role was the age of six in Pee-wee's Playhouse and her first major film role was a 1996 film Woody Allen's, everyone says I love you, at the age of 16. Like many child stars, she drifted into alcohol and drugs at an early age, consistently working, but more often attracting press for run ins with the law than the films she was in.
Adam She eventually became addicted to opiates and slowly began to see parts becoming less frequent, often due to erratic with her often erratic behavior blamed.
Adam In 2005, after a downward progression, a heroin addiction, and eventual homelessness, she was admitted to hospital for a collapsed lung, hepatitis C, and a heart infection.
Adam while she was in hospital, she missed a court appearance over an alleged assault, and, basically was going to go to jail.
Adam but she managed to avoid this by opting into the court appointed rehab program, which sort of got her off got her off the smack.
Adam and then but she was really close friends with Chloe Saveni.
Chris So say when did you say when did you say this was?
Adam That was 2005.
Chris Five.
Adam And then, Chloe Saveni sort of like encouraged her to to keep trying to do stuff, you know, to do more, you know, go get back on the horse.
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Chris I guess she's clearly.
Adam Because she'd done a lot of stuff.
Adam She'd done a lot of amazing things.
Chris She's clearly got skills and.
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Adam battling addiction issues and stuff like that, she was she was still working, she was still in quite a few films.
Adam And yeah, so she sort of went back most through stage and then got more film and TV roles and stuff like that.
Lee I sort of get the impression that that she almost brings.
Lee Her real life philosophy to her characters sometimes, not not specifically but yeah.
Lee It's like it's interesting how it it feels like you're getting something real from her.
Adam Then in 2012, she actually had to have open heart surgery because of the amount of damage that the drugs had done to her.
Adam And yeah, I mean it's, I mean, it's she's a tough bastard.
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Adam Very quite Deadpool, you know.
Adam But yeah, I think so you've got that.
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Adam And she's in a remake of a bucket of blood.
Adam Which is one of the films that does get mentioned in this, because I think they that's one of the posters at the start.
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Lee I need to rewatch the original, I saw that I saw that once when I went through a period when I first kind of suddenly realized that I liked black and white horror that wasn't the original stuff.
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Lee Yeah, and just went through a spate of just watching tons of them.
Lee yeah, and I watched it then, but again, I watched so many at that time, they all kind of blended into into one, unfortunately.
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