Wolf of Snow Hollow

0:00 Unknown Good evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.

0:26 Unknown I'm Chris.

0:28 Unknown I'm Adam.

0:28 Unknown And I'm Jennifer.

0:31 Unknown That's right.

0:32 Unknown What is she doing here?

0:34 Unknown I was trying to work out. It's been about a year since you've been here.

0:38 Unknown Well, I've been busy. You know, lockdown. There's a lot to do.

0:41 Unknown I've been staying in. I've been staying in and occasionally staying in.

0:47 Unknown She's so sick of the piss inside of me that as soon as I'm podcasting,

0:51 Unknown she's like an hour and a half away from your face.

0:53 Unknown It is true. I get a little bit of time to watch my own TV.

0:56 Unknown And yeah, that's fair enough.

1:00 Unknown I should also like to point out for the for those listening, if there are possible sound quality issues.

1:07 Unknown Chris had forgotten we were podcasting this evening, despite the fact we've done it for the last three years.

1:13 Unknown Every night.

1:13 Unknown Every week.

1:15 Unknown Every week at the same night.

1:16 Unknown And he's recording from his car in Norfolk in a field.

1:21 Unknown I just need to set the record straight.

1:24 Unknown I forgot we were coming to Norfolk in a field, not that we were podcasting.

1:27 Unknown Yeah.

1:28 Unknown I was assured.

1:30 Unknown I was assured that Norfolk has the most amazing connections you could ever have.

1:35 Unknown I thought, that's fine.

1:35 Unknown I can podcast in a field.

1:38 Unknown I mean, they've had electricity since 1993.

1:42 Unknown I heard something like that.

1:45 Unknown Yeah.

1:45 Unknown And equally, it is young Teddington's birthday as well.

1:53 Unknown So Adam is utterly...

1:54 Unknown Hey!

1:55 Unknown Hey!

1:56 Unknown Who's going to sing for us?

1:59 Unknown Lee, you like singing.

2:03 Unknown Yeah.

2:03 Unknown Singing, all right.

2:04 Unknown No, I don't.

2:07 Unknown Yes.

2:07 Unknown For the benefits of the tape, I don't do singing.

2:10 Unknown I used to mime when people used to all sing Happy Birthday.

2:14 Unknown I now even refuse to do that.

2:16 Unknown Ah.

2:17 Unknown But we did make sure we didn't sing for you.

2:19 Unknown I did make a point.

2:20 Unknown Yeah.

2:20 Unknown Jennifer's family made a point of not singing Happy Birthday to me,

2:23 Unknown which I thought was a real sign that people get me.

2:27 Unknown Which is lovely.

2:28 Unknown I love the way you've escalated that to the point where it's like,

2:32 Unknown don't sing Happy Birthday round him.

2:34 Unknown Like in the care home.

2:35 Unknown Yeah.

2:35 Unknown When you've got 80 and it's like,

2:37 Unknown don't sing Happy Birthday round him.

2:38 Unknown Why?

2:38 Unknown He just wanks.

2:40 Unknown Yeah.

2:40 Unknown He just drops his trousers and just fires one off just to try and diffuse the distraction.

2:46 Unknown To clear the room.

2:47 Unknown Yeah.

2:50 Unknown So we are here this evening for my birthday, Joyce,

2:55 Unknown to cover the Wolf of Snow Hollow.

2:58 Unknown But in an abbreviated version of our normal lead-in to the full movie,

3:07 Unknown Chris, how are you getting on with your MCU watching?

3:11 Unknown Oh, well, remember, it's only the fifth week that I've been doing this for.

3:17 Unknown As I've noticed, in fact, it's probably like, you know, it's probably more than that.

3:20 Unknown But you'll be pleased to know I've reached the end.

3:23 Unknown Really?

3:24 Unknown Really?

3:24 Unknown I've reached the end of the movies.

3:27 Unknown So we've seen Endgame.

3:29 Unknown And similar to Harry Potter, it gets way better than I expected it to get.

3:34 Unknown Yeah.

3:34 Unknown It gets a lot darker.

3:35 Unknown And there was a lot more to Thanos and just everything sort of just it kept progressing.

3:42 Unknown And I was thinking, OK, this is actually I should have watched this years ago.

3:45 Unknown It's definitely it's better than, you know, I sort of think of superhero.

3:50 Unknown Yeah, they're fun.

3:51 Unknown But there was actually some depth sort of coming in.

3:55 Unknown It's yeah, very good.

3:56 Unknown And then we saw the new Spider-Man after that, which is Far From Home, which I loved because I'm trying to think, what do I not give away?

4:09 Unknown It started to seem like the original Spider-Man cartoons.

4:15 Unknown Yeah.

4:15 Unknown Because of what was going on in it, the characters.

4:20 Unknown And yeah, I have a sense that Spider-Man is aimed at a younger audience.

4:26 Unknown I don't know if you agree with that, Lee.

4:29 Unknown You've seen it.

4:31 Unknown Yeah.

4:31 Unknown I mean, I think it's still got the it still works for everybody.

4:36 Unknown But yeah, I see what you mean.

4:37 Unknown You could definitely show the Spider-Man movies to a younger audience that you possibly couldn't show some of the others to.

4:43 Unknown Yeah.

4:43 Unknown Yeah.

4:44 Unknown And I think the comedy lends itself a little more to younger audience.

4:49 Unknown Yeah.

4:49 Unknown And so.

4:52 Unknown So.

4:52 Unknown But yeah, it had a nice twist in it.

4:55 Unknown I won't say anymore.

4:57 Unknown The twist was fantastic.

4:58 Unknown Really good.

4:59 Unknown And I love the actor.

5:01 Unknown Donnie Darko.

5:02 Unknown Jake.

5:03 Unknown Gilliam Hall.

5:04 Unknown Yeah.

5:05 Unknown He's fantastic.

5:06 Unknown So yeah, I really enjoyed that.

5:09 Unknown He's.

5:10 Unknown Oh, what's his bloody name, isn't he?

5:13 Unknown Fishbowl Head.

5:14 Unknown Yes.

5:15 Unknown Yes.

5:16 Unknown So that's what I was trying not to say.

5:17 Unknown I was thinking.

5:19 Unknown Do we want to give that away?

5:21 Unknown But he's a classic Spider-Man.

5:22 Unknown Well, I've not seen it and I know he's in it.

5:25 Unknown Fair enough.

5:26 Unknown All right.

5:26 Unknown Yeah.

5:26 Unknown So Mysterio.

5:28 Unknown That's it.

5:29 Unknown Thank you.

5:30 Unknown And I loved seeing him because I didn't realise he was going to be in it at all.

5:33 Unknown And I remember him a lot from the comics as being Spider-Man's main nemesis.

5:39 Unknown Certainly for a while.

5:40 Unknown Obviously there's Green Goblin points as well.

5:44 Unknown But yeah.

5:44 Unknown Mysterio was always fascinating to me because of the way he could adjust reality.

5:49 Unknown And I kind of like the way they've explained that in this.

5:52 Unknown I thought it was brilliantly done.

5:54 Unknown Really clever.

5:55 Unknown Yeah.

5:55 Unknown Technology use.

5:56 Unknown Yeah.

5:56 Unknown So yeah.

5:58 Unknown I really enjoyed that.

6:00 Unknown I'd really like to see them bring Kraven into it.

6:03 Unknown Kraven the hunter.

6:05 Unknown Oh.

6:05 Unknown Because I don't know him.

6:07 Unknown He's basically.

6:08 Unknown He's a big game hunter.

6:10 Unknown But he's killed everything else.

6:12 Unknown So it's like.

6:14 Unknown Yeah.

6:14 Unknown Spider-Man.

6:15 Unknown He's like.

6:15 Unknown He's an unusual specimen.

6:19 Unknown So yeah.

6:21 Unknown They'd look good though.

6:22 Unknown The head on the wall, wouldn't it?

6:23 Unknown Spider-Man.

6:24 Unknown Yeah.

6:24 Unknown That's your poster.

6:27 Unknown That is the movie.

6:27 Unknown Yeah.

6:28 Unknown Yeah.

6:29 Unknown That would work.

6:29 Unknown And I would definitely go and see that.

6:33 Unknown Excellent.

6:33 Unknown Well done.

6:34 Unknown Congratulations on making it up to date then, Chris.

6:36 Unknown Yeah.

6:37 Unknown So we are watching the WandaVision now.

6:39 Unknown Which is not a movie.

6:41 Unknown But it's good.

6:42 Unknown It changes.

6:44 Unknown We're not at the end.

6:44 Unknown But yeah.

6:46 Unknown Excellent.

6:47 Unknown I've not given it a go yet.

6:48 Unknown But I will do at some point.

6:50 Unknown Adam.

6:51 Unknown Looking exhausted over there.

6:53 Unknown Sorry.

6:53 Unknown Oh, sorry.

6:54 Unknown Just very quickly.

6:55 Unknown Before we move on.

6:56 Unknown Jennifer, you were drawing letters in the air with your finger.

6:59 Unknown Were you trying to work out what the MCU stood for?

7:00 Unknown Yes.

7:01 Unknown It's the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

7:04 Unknown Okay.

7:04 Unknown I was trying to think of the name of the films.

7:06 Unknown And I couldn't remember what they were anyway.

7:07 Unknown I just thought I'd better clear.

7:09 Unknown I'm sure the listeners know.

7:11 Unknown Well, they might not.

7:11 Unknown I thought if it's confusing.

7:12 Unknown I'm listening and I don't know.

7:14 Unknown That's fair enough.

7:15 Unknown Adam.

7:15 Unknown Sorry.

7:16 Unknown What have you seen?

7:17 Unknown I have seen nothing.

7:20 Unknown Oh.

7:21 Unknown But I have heard many things.

7:23 Unknown Oh.

7:25 Unknown Basically, I'm going to recommend because, yeah, it's been obviously been a fairly odd week.

7:31 Unknown So there's plenty that I'm, I've got piles of stuff to go through as yet and just haven't got around to any of it.

7:39 Unknown But I have completed listening to all, literally every episode of a podcast called The Monster Hunters.

7:49 Unknown Okay.

7:49 Unknown And this is of particular recommendation to our listeners because I think, I think it's one of those ones a bit that they would get it.

8:03 Unknown It very much harks back to our horror comedy episodes because it's a full, it's a full cast, like, story.

8:16 Unknown You know, it's not a podcast where it's just talking heads like us or it's an actual, you know, it's basically a radio play that they've released as a podcast rather than on the radio.

8:26 Unknown But, yeah, it's called The Monster Hunters and it's written and directed by two guys, Peter Davis and Matthew Woodcock.

8:35 Unknown And the reason I found it is Peter Davis does a really good, he does a podcast called The Hellraiser Podcast, which is literally, as you would imagine, a podcast all about Hellraiser.

8:46 Unknown And I really enjoy, I really enjoy those.

8:49 Unknown He also, the two guys, him and another guy who do that, they also do a podcast called Horror Movie Maniacs, which is kind of their, similar to us where it's just they go through classic horror films and stuff like that.

9:03 Unknown But, yeah, so The Monster Hunters is, the best way I can describe it is it's the best thing that Matt Berry's not in.

9:13 Unknown Because it has that total feeling.

9:17 Unknown Apparently, they met whilst acting at the London Dungeon, which obviously is where Matt Berry sort of started acting as well.

9:27 Unknown But basically, yeah, it's set in the early 70s and they said that their touchstone for it is kind of Dracula AD 1972.

9:43 Unknown Nice.

9:43 Unknown And it's that where it's like that sort of groovy 70s versus monsters thing.

9:49 Unknown And they play, they play Laura McChesterfield and Roy Steele.

9:56 Unknown And Laura McChesterfield is the brains of the outfit.

10:00 Unknown He's like the sort of Giles from Buffy, the Doctor, Professor Quatermass type.

10:06 Unknown And then Roy Steele is a two-fisted man of action.

10:11 Unknown And, yeah, it's genuinely really good.

10:18 Unknown And as they go on, there's, in the first series, there's like little sort of horror, there's references that you'll pick up anyway.

10:27 Unknown Like there's, but it's all quite subtle things.

10:30 Unknown Like at one point, one of them saying, someone says, what's going on down there?

10:35 Unknown I want you to know that I don't find this in the slightest bit amusing, which is from American Werewolf and things like that.

10:42 Unknown And, but yeah, they, it's genuinely really, really funny, really well produced.

10:51 Unknown And they also, as, as it goes on, they sort of build up their repertory company almost where it's like, so you have villains come back and team up with new villains or you get sort of characters there.

11:12 Unknown Like there's, there's, there's a love, there's a lovely, there's a thing in it where, because Roy Steele is basically meant to be a very sort of like a seventies sort of Bondy sort of like ladies man type guy.

11:26 Unknown But they have a scientist who he hooks up with at one point and her name is Dr. Ladyface, which is just fantastic.

11:37 Unknown But also the main, the real main thing for me is their boss is a guy called Sir Maxwell House, who is fucking mental.

11:48 Unknown He, it's one of those ones where it sort of, it starts off and he's a funny character.

11:54 Unknown And then by the time you get to like sort of series three, you're like, how would, how do you actually operate on a day to day level?

12:03 Unknown Because he is just like balmy, genuinely, you know, I think he gets, he gets a lot of the best lines.

12:11 Unknown He's just brilliant.

12:12 Unknown But yeah, so I absolutely recommend everyone go and listen to that.

12:18 Unknown You guys listen to it because it is just genuinely, yeah, it's just, it's just so good.

12:25 Unknown So good.

12:26 Unknown Listen to him in order as well, because like I say, they do actually, they have like a throughput of, they do have an overall story arc.

12:34 Unknown Yeah.

12:35 Unknown As well as just being really good little comedy horror plays and stuff like that.

12:39 Unknown Um, and then, uh, my other recommendation is of course, uh, as yet unexplained.

12:46 Unknown Yes.

12:47 Unknown From, uh, from our, uh, absolutely.

12:50 Unknown Mos Eisley, uh, co-conspirator, Mr. Wesley Smith.

12:55 Unknown Um, again, I, I mean, I trust Wes, you know, it's unknown for long enough.

13:02 Unknown I trust, well, no, I don't trust him that way.

13:05 Unknown No, not, not, not, not, not with money or, you know, dirty pictures or anything like that.

13:12 Unknown But no, um, I, I trust that he would come out with something good, but it's really fucking good.

13:18 Unknown And the production is out of this fucking world.

13:22 Unknown He's really, he's really crafted that, hasn't he?

13:26 Unknown He's really gone.

13:27 Unknown Absolutely, yeah.

13:27 Unknown Absolutely.

13:29 Unknown Wonderful.

13:30 Unknown Fantastic.

13:31 Unknown Yeah, get out and check that out.

13:33 Unknown Hmm.

13:34 Unknown Strangely.

13:35 Unknown Um, I, I, we have caught up on your recommendation, Adam.

13:40 Unknown Let's say recommendation.

13:41 Unknown We would have caught up on it, but we'd forgot that it existed until you recommended it.

13:45 Unknown So, so we've caught up with the first two episodes of Inside Number Nine.

13:49 Unknown Ah, yes.

13:50 Unknown Um, yes, again, the, Inside Number Nine is one of those shows that I thought they'd run

13:57 Unknown out of things to do after season two and somehow they still seem to be getting better each episode.

14:02 Unknown I don't know how they manage it.

14:04 Unknown Yeah.

14:05 Unknown Yeah, just absolutely brilliant.

14:07 Unknown I don't want to give anything away because, as always, with Inside Number Nine, everything

14:12 Unknown hinges on the twist.

14:14 Unknown Yeah.

14:14 Unknown And it isn't always one.

14:16 Unknown Um, but yeah.

14:17 Unknown No, I think that's what they've innovated with now is that they, because it's like we're

14:24 Unknown the twist show.

14:25 Unknown So it's all right.

14:26 Unknown So we'll, well, we'll turn it, we'll turn the screw about 10 minutes, then change it

14:31 Unknown again about 20 and then just before the end, we'll rip the carpet out from under it.

14:36 Unknown So.

14:37 Unknown Oh, just incredible.

14:39 Unknown It's fantastic.

14:40 Unknown It's, I know what you mean though, because it is, it is a weird thing where you just assume

14:44 Unknown at some point this must get, you know, you've got to run out of ideas or whatever like that.

14:51 Unknown And it's actually, I think this is so far, this has been probably one of the strongest

14:56 Unknown series.

14:57 Unknown Yeah.

14:58 Unknown Yeah.

14:58 Unknown You know, it's a real, um, really, really cracking, um, stuff, but they, um, on another

15:06 Unknown podcast tip, there is on BBC sounds, there's Inside Inside Number Nine.

15:10 Unknown Yeah.

15:11 Unknown And after each episode, Rhys and Steve just go through what the episode's about and interview

15:17 Unknown people and sort of talk about, um, bits and pieces with regards to the production and stuff

15:22 Unknown like that and where the idea came from.

15:24 Unknown Um, and they had, um, and also at the end of it, they will tell you where the hair was

15:32 Unknown in the previous episode.

15:33 Unknown Oh, yes.

15:35 Unknown I've been looking out for it for the last two seasons and I haven't seen the damn thing.

15:41 Unknown I think I've only spotted it a couple of times.

15:44 Unknown Interestingly enough, in the, in the one with the, um, the script writer and the fan.

15:49 Unknown Yeah.

15:50 Unknown Uh, episode.

15:51 Unknown Um, they said, apparently it's, they said where it was, but they also said, oh, um, it's wearing

15:59 Unknown a little COVID mask.

16:00 Unknown Oh.

16:01 Unknown Um, and, but they said, we kind of thought, oh, that'll be a nice thing because we'll be

16:07 Unknown able to look back on that and go, oh, yes.

16:09 Unknown You remember when we, it was like, no, we're still here.

16:11 Unknown Yeah.

16:13 Unknown Um, yeah.

16:15 Unknown So that's, uh, that's steaming ahead nicely.

16:18 Unknown Um, we also, as we mentioned on the last one, following the Jason Buck reading that we

16:24 Unknown had, uh, of the shadow over Innsmouth, I showed Jennifer Dagon for the first time.

16:29 Unknown Yeah.

16:30 Unknown Ooh.

16:30 Unknown What did you make of Dagon, Jennifer?

16:32 Unknown Well, I think it helped that I was in the mood for that, having, you know, to say, listened

16:37 Unknown to the shadow over Innsmouth.

16:40 Unknown But if I hadn't have just listened to that story and known what the film was kind of getting

16:46 Unknown at, it was just a bit of a silly film.

16:50 Unknown Like, you know, it was, I think that was the only thing that held it together for me

16:55 Unknown was that I knew the backstory.

16:57 Unknown It was the only thing that held it to the story.

16:58 Unknown So I added something to it.

17:00 Unknown I think if I'd just watched it cold, I would have been like, this is stupid.

17:02 Unknown What's going on?

17:04 Unknown Okay.

17:05 Unknown Fair enough.

17:06 Unknown Is that fair?

17:07 Unknown Did I see Lee's eyes start glowing then?

17:10 Unknown Glowing red.

17:10 Unknown I mean, it was sort of cheesy, well, cheesy 90s really, wasn't it?

17:15 Unknown It is.

17:15 Unknown It's one of those films where I know it's rubbish.

17:18 Unknown Yes.

17:19 Unknown But because, as Jennifer said, I think that's the thing.

17:22 Unknown I think because I love the H.P. Lovecraft story on which it's very loosely based, I think

17:29 Unknown that's why I, and again, so many people have tried to do H.P. Lovecraft stuff.

17:36 Unknown It's one of the better adaptions, definitely.

17:38 Unknown I mean, I didn't know how they were going to do it, to be fair, because when you listen

17:42 Unknown to the story, it's very first person and you don't think that wouldn't work for a film.

17:47 Unknown And so, yeah, I mean, I think, you know, it's clever what they've done, but I probably

17:50 Unknown won't ever watch it again.

17:52 Unknown That's fair.

17:53 Unknown I've only seen it a few times.

17:55 Unknown Yes.

17:55 Unknown Yeah, I wouldn't rush out.

17:56 Unknown You know, people out there, listeners, don't rush out and buy it.

18:00 Unknown But, you know, if someone's got it for free that you can borrow, that's fine.

18:04 Unknown Is that fair?

18:04 Unknown Yeah, I think so.

18:05 Unknown Okay.

18:06 Unknown Well, I mean, I'd still like to cover it on the show one day.

18:10 Unknown Oh, yeah, I'd be happy to cover it.

18:12 Unknown You know, like Inside Number Nine, if we do start running out of things, then.

18:15 Unknown Yeah.

18:18 Unknown Yeah, eventually.

18:19 Unknown Season 20.

18:22 Unknown Doesn't it look like we've run out of much so far?

18:25 Unknown No.

18:26 Unknown Well, Adam and I were having a discussion during the week about what we're going to cover after

18:30 Unknown this episode.

18:31 Unknown And even that was born out of which of these three would we do next if we were going to

18:36 Unknown do one of them?

18:36 Unknown Not necessarily, because there's hundreds, but we are going to stick to it.

18:39 Unknown We've decided.

18:40 Unknown Yeah.

18:40 Unknown And we've got something a bit special planned.

18:43 Unknown Ooh.

18:43 Unknown Ooh.

18:45 Unknown Exciting.

18:45 Unknown Well, it's Adam has very helpfully been back through the back catalogue and looking

18:49 Unknown at things that are a larger influence that we should have covered more.

18:54 Unknown And he basically came back and said, we're doing him a disservice because we haven't introduced

18:58 Unknown him to this genre as much as we should, considering how important it is.

19:05 Unknown So we're going to...

19:06 Unknown Don't do me a disservice.

19:07 Unknown I don't like that.

19:08 Unknown I'll tell you what we might run out of is Halloween or Christmas themed.

19:15 Unknown I imagine that might start to get a little harder.

19:17 Unknown Could have been a Christmas film.

19:20 Unknown I'd forgotten that it all happens at Christmas.

19:22 Unknown That's very true.

19:23 Unknown Yeah.

19:23 Unknown Yeah.

19:24 Unknown Ooh.

19:25 Unknown Yeah.

19:25 Unknown Yeah.

19:26 Unknown So without further ado...

19:28 Unknown Yes.

19:29 Unknown The Christmas film that we're covering on the 29th of May.

19:32 Unknown We have just watched, as promised, The Wolf of Snow Hollow.

19:39 Unknown I've heard of this a couple of times.

19:42 Unknown Yes.

19:42 Unknown I got a little bit excited and wouldn't stop talking about this film.

19:46 Unknown And I don't know what's taking us until now to cover it because we've got such a massive

19:50 Unknown back catalogue, I think.

19:51 Unknown But, yes.

19:55 Unknown So, Adam, I'm going to go to you first.

19:58 Unknown Again, this was your first song.

19:59 Unknown I've seen it also.

20:00 Unknown What did you make of The Wolf of Snow Hollow?

20:04 Unknown Well, I mean, I thought that...

20:06 Unknown I thought Leonardo DiCaprio was excellent.

20:12 Unknown Margot Robbie's great.

20:13 Unknown It was great seeing Henry Zebrowski from last podcast.

20:17 Unknown You know?

20:18 Unknown Yeah.

20:19 Unknown Sorry.

20:20 Unknown I could not fucking resist.

20:22 Unknown No.

20:23 Unknown What I...

20:25 Unknown I think the weird thing is, is watching this, is I sort of...

20:29 Unknown I finished it and I just turned to Claire and I said...

20:34 Unknown I can't...

20:36 Unknown Not because it's not a good film, but I was like...

20:40 Unknown I'm just shocked that Lee's like...

20:42 Unknown This is a...

20:44 Unknown You know, this is Lee's top film of last year.

20:45 Unknown Because I was like...

20:47 Unknown You know, it's kind of...

20:48 Unknown It's funny.

20:50 Unknown But it's also quite sort of...

20:53 Unknown Moving.

20:54 Unknown Yeah.

20:54 Unknown In its own sort of way.

20:57 Unknown I am going to...

20:59 Unknown At this point, we're going to put out...

21:01 Unknown Right.

21:02 Unknown There's going to be spoilers.

21:04 Unknown So...

21:05 Unknown For Christ's sake, go and see this.

21:06 Unknown Because it is worth watching this film.

21:08 Unknown It is not...

21:10 Unknown Don't be...

21:11 Unknown Sort of...

21:12 Unknown Oh, well, I'll listen to that.

21:13 Unknown See if it will...

21:14 Unknown You know...

21:15 Unknown I mean, we've done a hundred odd episodes.

21:17 Unknown See where our tastes lie.

21:19 Unknown I think all three...

21:20 Unknown All four of us seem to be on pretty much the same page with this.

21:24 Unknown So...

21:25 Unknown Definitely stop the podcast now.

21:27 Unknown Go and watch it.

21:28 Unknown And then return.

21:29 Unknown Yes.

21:30 Unknown Have you done that?

21:31 Unknown Good.

21:31 Unknown Now, because there's spoilers coming up.

21:33 Unknown So...

21:34 Unknown Yeah.

21:35 Unknown But also, it was, as it turns out, a non-supernatural film.

21:41 Unknown It's much more of a thriller than probably anything else.

21:45 Unknown Although, not to say that you...

21:46 Unknown You know, these are not things that you don't...

21:49 Unknown You wouldn't particularly like.

21:51 Unknown But it was all like...

21:52 Unknown Sort of like in a combo.

21:52 Unknown I'm like...

21:53 Unknown You know, it's unusual that it's a set of elements.

21:58 Unknown So this is our mystery then.

22:00 Unknown How can we work out what it is that really appeals to Lee?

22:03 Unknown You're right.

22:04 Unknown One of my most...

22:05 Unknown One of my top turn-offs on a film is when it's supernatural until the end.

22:09 Unknown And then it...

22:10 Unknown But for some reason, this film, it just made me piss myself laughing.

22:14 Unknown In no way, took anything away from the story.

22:18 Unknown It...

22:19 Unknown And I'll tell you what.

22:20 Unknown More than anything, it just felt very Coen Brothers.

22:24 Unknown Yeah.

22:25 Unknown It's not...

22:26 Unknown Is that the same?

22:27 Unknown It's not...

22:28 Unknown Yeah.

22:28 Unknown It's...

22:29 Unknown Yeah.

22:29 Unknown I mean, basically, it's Fargo.

22:31 Unknown It's Fargo with the Wolves.

22:32 Unknown Um...

22:33 Unknown Yeah.

22:33 Unknown But it's not...

22:34 Unknown It's not wisecracks.

22:38 Unknown It's not necessarily...

22:42 Unknown Funny dialogue is the wrong term, but it's...

22:45 Unknown You know, the dialogue is funny because of the context it's in.

22:48 Unknown Is it?

22:49 Unknown I thought it was the style...

22:50 Unknown The style of how the comedy is done.

22:53 Unknown Because also, what I sort of wondered about was...

22:56 Unknown Um...

22:57 Unknown Wiley would necessarily like it.

22:58 Unknown It's because it is a bit awkward in its comedy.

23:01 Unknown Yes.

23:02 Unknown Because it's a bit of a...

23:03 Unknown Yes.

23:03 Unknown It's a bit of a comedy tragedy, isn't it?

23:06 Unknown Yeah.

23:06 Unknown I think the thing...

23:07 Unknown Really.

23:08 Unknown I think the thing I got from it, having watched it last night for the fourth time now, um...

23:12 Unknown This year.

23:14 Unknown Um...

23:15 Unknown It is just how...

23:16 Unknown You're absolutely right.

23:17 Unknown Because you go into...

23:19 Unknown Some of it's very serious.

23:21 Unknown Some of it's hilarious.

23:22 Unknown And you go into every scene not knowing where it's going.

23:26 Unknown And normally, for me, that's terrible.

23:27 Unknown Because I'd be like, this is so up and down.

23:30 Unknown I don't know if I'm supposed to be laughing.

23:32 Unknown Or am I going to laugh at something?

23:33 Unknown Or crying, yeah.

23:34 Unknown It suddenly becomes inappropriate, which happens quite a lot.

23:38 Unknown But for some reason, the way that it's all just smashed together, it just works for me.

23:44 Unknown And it absolutely drew me.

23:45 Unknown And it kept me on the edge of my seat.

23:47 Unknown Because I never knew how I was supposed...

23:50 Unknown Like, every scene.

23:51 Unknown The scene where they go in to see the boyfriend of the first victim.

23:57 Unknown Yeah.

23:57 Unknown And he's in his mum's kitchen.

23:59 Unknown And they're packing the stuff up.

24:00 Unknown And I thought it was going to turn jokey.

24:03 Unknown And then he got aggressive.

24:04 Unknown And then he burst into tears.

24:06 Unknown And I was just in this, like, rollercoaster of emotion.

24:09 Unknown Yeah.

24:10 Unknown And I didn't know what was going to happen.

24:12 Unknown Literally, from sentence to sentence, this film just turned on a dime every time.

24:16 Unknown I love that.

24:17 Unknown Yeah.

24:18 Unknown Do you know what?

24:18 Unknown It reminded me a bit of the lead character, Jim Cunningham, I think is the actor.

24:25 Unknown He almost made me think he could be in, like, Letterkenny, something like that.

24:29 Unknown Yeah.

24:29 Unknown Where it's just...

24:30 Unknown It was funny, but with, yeah, dramatic elements.

24:34 Unknown And just the way he's responding to the situations is just...

24:38 Unknown He could flip or he could be, you know, understanding or it's just like, yeah.

24:42 Unknown And it was that moment as well.

24:45 Unknown That was the bit I loved was the fact that every time somebody spoke to him, he kind of stopped for a moment and everything went into a pause while he processed what he was going to do next.

24:56 Unknown And then either shout, slap somebody in the face or go and secretly drink.

25:00 Unknown And he didn't know which reaction was going to happen after anything that happened throughout the film.

25:05 Unknown I'll tell you what, also, just as a...

25:10 Unknown It's...

25:11 Unknown One thing I really enjoyed about it was the fact that he spends most of the film having to argue with people.

25:21 Unknown No, actually, this is your fucking job.

25:24 Unknown Yeah.

25:27 Unknown Because of the amount of butt-passing and sort of...

25:30 Unknown Yeah, but he was being a bit defensive as well, though, because ultimately everyone was saying, well, it's your job to catch them.

25:37 Unknown And obviously...

25:38 Unknown But it made me think that that was a serious element to it.

25:40 Unknown Imagine something like that happening in a relatively small, remote town and how it would start to affect you.

25:47 Unknown Because you're like, well, we sort of know a lot of the people here.

25:50 Unknown What's going on?

25:50 Unknown Like, who could it be?

25:52 Unknown Especially when...

25:52 Unknown Like, when they started doing those interviews with people, that's when it sort of stepped up in intensity for me.

25:58 Unknown Because I don't know if, you know, it went with the music.

26:00 Unknown But it was just like, yeah, we're all sort of a bit wary of each other.

26:04 Unknown Like, we're pointing at it.

26:05 Unknown It was definitely him.

26:05 Unknown It was definitely him.

26:06 Unknown He's a weirdo, you know.

26:07 Unknown And it's like, you would all start to be a bit, well, what's going on?

26:11 Unknown Like, how could this possibly be happening?

26:14 Unknown It's like cabin fever, but on a slightly bigger scale.

26:16 Unknown Yeah.

26:16 Unknown You know, if there's a murder in London, it could be one of, you know, a million people.

26:22 Unknown But if there's only 300 people in the village, somebody knows the person who's done it.

26:27 Unknown Like, it's one of you.

26:28 Unknown It's all hairy guys.

26:30 Unknown Sure, look like that.

26:31 Unknown Right at the start.

26:32 Unknown But you've got some people obviously trying to really say it is a werewolf.

26:37 Unknown So, like, just as the, you know, the chief of police, like, trying to make the decision about, well, obviously, we obviously know it isn't a werewolf because they don't exist.

26:47 Unknown But, you know, it's like, what's going on?

26:49 Unknown There's something weird going on here.

26:51 Unknown Yeah.

26:51 Unknown And at that point, of course, you don't know because you're watching a horror film.

26:55 Unknown So, as the author, you know, you are like, well, yeah.

26:58 Unknown Yeah, who do you trust?

26:59 Unknown Who is right?

27:00 Unknown He's wrong.

27:01 Unknown He's just, I think it's a normal person.

27:03 Unknown And now it's obviously going to be a werewolf.

27:05 Unknown And, yeah, it's quite clever.

27:06 Unknown But also, you see the werewolf.

27:09 Unknown Yeah.

27:10 Unknown Yeah.

27:12 Unknown And, okay, as it turns out, it's Scooby-Doo.

27:16 Unknown But there is a werewolf suit.

27:19 Unknown So, you are kind of, you're lulled into that camp as well, where it's like, well, it is a werewolf because we've seen the werewolf.

27:29 Unknown And I'm double taking it, Jennifer, now.

27:33 Unknown That, you know, what suits is she making behind the scenes?

27:36 Unknown Well, I know.

27:37 Unknown I mean, isn't it always blame the taxidermist?

27:40 Unknown Yeah.

27:40 Unknown I mean, oh, taxidermist, they're going to be the killer.

27:44 Unknown I know.

27:45 Unknown Ridiculous.

27:46 Unknown Don't we blame the taxidermist?

27:48 Unknown As Vix Lewis-Smith said, there is only one thing stranger than people who stuff dead animals.

27:55 Unknown And that's people who stuff live animals.

27:57 Unknown And very tall people.

28:03 Unknown Yes.

28:04 Unknown One thing I thought that I really, I really liked, and especially because right at the start, because I knew, basically, I got the disc.

28:18 Unknown And I sort of avoided getting involved with, like, getting involved with trailers or spoilers or anything like that.

28:28 Unknown You know, I didn't want to know anything going into it.

28:32 Unknown But sort of like, you know, just, and people are saying also, it's, I think, is it Jim Cummings?

28:40 Unknown Yes.

28:40 Unknown Yes.

28:41 Unknown Yes.

28:42 Unknown And obviously, he wrote, directed, and starred in it.

28:46 Unknown Yes.

28:48 Unknown And which, you know, not only that, but also when you see something like that, the hairs on the back of your neck stand up because you just cannot help but think Garth Marenghi.

28:58 Unknown No, it does make you worry because there is a grand tradition in low-budget films of writer, director, stars, and most of the time, it's not a good combo.

29:11 Unknown Yeah, no, I agree.

29:13 Unknown They're either good at one and bad at the others, or just shit at all of them.

29:18 Unknown Are there any films that we've seen where that is the case?

29:22 Unknown Any others?

29:23 Unknown I don't think so.

29:25 Unknown I don't know what I can think of because we generally only show you good films.

29:28 Unknown Well, yeah, that's true.

29:30 Unknown I mean, well, I mean, if we were to show you, like, say, for example, I mean, like, the obvious one, The Room.

29:37 Unknown No, that's an unfair example of a really, really bad film.

29:43 Unknown But, you know, you're sort of coming from that, you'd come to it with that sort of thing where it's like, oh, and, but I didn't know who Jim Cummings was.

29:55 Unknown Mm-hmm.

29:56 Unknown And at the start of it, you're kind of, they give you the first, like, the, the, the first, like, at the start of it, you've got the couple where obviously the girlfriend is murdered.

30:07 Unknown Mm-hmm.

30:08 Unknown But I wasn't sure, oh, are we following this guy around for this film?

30:12 Unknown Yeah.

30:13 Unknown Because this guy seems a bit of a prick.

30:15 Unknown Yeah.

30:16 Unknown Um, but, I mean, and, but fortunately, but, and that's something that I really appreciate with this film is he does do a really good sleight of hand of every so often they introduce you to a character.

30:30 Unknown And you, you go with it where it's like, right, you've given, given us a lot of backstory, you've shown us a thing.

30:37 Unknown Mm-hmm.

30:38 Unknown And it's like, there's the, the woman who gets murdered, who's like the coach.

30:43 Unknown Mm-hmm.

30:43 Unknown And they actually do the scene of her sitting at the table looking suspicious.

30:49 Unknown Yeah.

30:49 Unknown So you're already on the thing of, oh, is she the killer?

30:53 Unknown Mm-hmm.

30:53 Unknown Or is this the, and then she gets killed.

30:56 Unknown But you've been totally wrong-footed to sort of buy into this character who then dies within, like, five minutes of appearing on screen.

31:05 Unknown And every time I forget how gory her death is.

31:08 Unknown Like, when it literally rips her arm off and she's just flailing around with it.

31:13 Unknown It's really, and I kept waiting for her to get away.

31:15 Unknown Because as you say, Adam, like, it, you don't, obviously, when you look back at it now, you realise her strange reaction is because she's seeing the killer because he does turn up and groom these people.

31:26 Unknown As it were.

31:27 Unknown So that's her reaction to him.

31:28 Unknown But as you say, at first, when you see it, you think, is that her looking at the, is that her being uncomfortable and wondering?

31:37 Unknown Yeah.

31:37 Unknown So you do kind of, so I kept waiting for her to get away.

31:40 Unknown Mm-hmm.

31:41 Unknown And it'd be, as you say, a slight of pain where she's going to turn out to actually be the, somebody's going to try and surprise her.

31:48 Unknown I thought she did get away.

31:49 Unknown Very much the second time we watched it, there were so many things that I was convinced were going to happen, which I think does show you how clever the sleight of hand is.

31:58 Unknown Yeah.

31:58 Unknown Or that my memory is terrible.

32:00 Unknown But do you know what I mean?

32:00 Unknown Because, yeah, your brain's going, oh, yeah, yeah, we're meeting this person.

32:04 Unknown Oh, yeah, she definitely lives.

32:05 Unknown And you just think you've remembered that.

32:07 Unknown Yeah.

32:07 Unknown And then she doesn't.

32:08 Unknown And I'm like, oh, I totally misremembered that.

32:11 Unknown So that is interesting.

32:13 Unknown And it's like with the couple in the opening sequence where they sort of come in and it's like, that just feels like the opening of 101 horror films.

32:26 Unknown Yeah.

32:27 Unknown Yeah.

32:27 Unknown You know, it could be Sinister or, you know, because it starts off with someone moving into a new house.

32:34 Unknown It could be Amityville or something like this.

32:37 Unknown You know what I mean?

32:37 Unknown Where it's like.

32:38 Unknown So, yeah, I assumed that we were with the couple for the duration, then at least with the boyfriend for the duration.

32:48 Unknown Yeah.

32:48 Unknown Because of the way that they sort of do it.

32:51 Unknown But no.

32:52 Unknown And it's, I really, in a weird way, it follows a lot more police procedural than horror movie.

33:01 Unknown Yeah.

33:01 Unknown And I do like all the stuff where it's like him sitting there going, no, it's a serial killer because they do this, this and this.

33:10 Unknown Yeah.

33:11 Unknown And, you know, it's all stuff that is entirely accurate.

33:15 Unknown And afterwards, I've sort of, I've seen, I've seen an interview, someone conducted, like it's on YouTube, like an interview with Jim Cummings.

33:23 Unknown And he, what was it he said?

33:28 Unknown Someone said, oh, you know, where do you stand on the thing of the, you know, people have said, oh, in terms of your film, the, you know, it's only women that get brutally murdered.

33:40 Unknown And he went, yeah, but that's a serial killer.

33:43 Unknown Yeah.

33:43 Unknown You know, it's not something, it's not something you question in Silence of the Lambs.

33:49 Unknown No.

33:50 Unknown Well, he did, he did sort of point it out in the film, didn't it?

33:53 Unknown Because they talk about the background of werewolves and, and then, and women getting attacked.

34:00 Unknown And, and he's like, have women had to put up with this sort of thing for a long time?

34:04 Unknown Yeah.

34:05 Unknown The way she looks at him is fucking great.

34:09 Unknown I really liked her character.

34:10 Unknown She was great.

34:11 Unknown Because she, she was, she, like, because obviously throughout you're thinking he's losing it.

34:15 Unknown He's just, you know, he's going to go wrong, completely wrong at some point, probably.

34:22 Unknown Because he basically, his entire life is ruined from his anger issues, which he obviously dealt with with drink.

34:29 Unknown And so that was a problem.

34:30 Unknown But actually he's still doing police work pretty well, you know, as well as anybody else there is managing it.

34:37 Unknown And especially with his, his relationship with his dad, obviously that's pretty complex because he's meant to be taken over.

34:44 Unknown But, you know, he doesn't want that to be happening.

34:47 Unknown And so that's quite a difficult situation to be in.

34:50 Unknown But yeah, just the way she is sort of supporting him throughout, I thought it was great.

34:55 Unknown Yeah.

34:55 Unknown So yeah, I really liked her character as well.

34:58 Unknown It's also one of those ones where all the way through it, I was thinking, because you kind of expect there is an element, you know, obviously he, well, in the end, they both take down the killer.

35:10 Unknown And they both come to the conclusion at roughly the same point.

35:15 Unknown Yeah.

35:16 Unknown Which I loved.

35:18 Unknown Where it's like, so she's twigged it because of the, the, the, the Bodkin, like the weird, the scene ripper, that's it.

35:27 Unknown Yeah.

35:27 Unknown That has been left behind.

35:29 Unknown And, but then he twigs it just because he's like, oh yeah, I'm not married.

35:32 Unknown And it's like, yeah.

35:33 Unknown And every other moment you've said, well, my wife's going to kill me when this goes out.

35:39 Unknown Oh, my wife.

35:40 Unknown And it's, so they both, they both solve it.

35:44 Unknown But all the way through, you're like, she is so much more capable because he, you know, he's, he's morally right.

35:53 Unknown But equally, there are enough people there where you think they probably do have a point when they're saying, well, you didn't fucking solve this.

36:02 Unknown Yeah.

36:02 Unknown Or you haven't sorted this out properly.

36:04 Unknown And it's like, I'm just so glad that at the end she is the sheriff.

36:08 Unknown Yeah.

36:08 Unknown Because it's like, yeah, no, the right person here has got the job.

36:15 Unknown You know, I think that that's, that was something that I really, really appreciated with it.

36:21 Unknown And, and actually Robert Forster as the dad, like the old sheriff.

36:26 Unknown I mean, obviously, I think this, this is actually his last film role because he was really, he was really quite ill.

36:34 Unknown Um, but for me that, that was again, another evocation of something where it's quirky small town stuff is he was the sheriff in the third series of Twin Peaks, like the recent one.

36:50 Unknown Um, because the original sheriff Truman, um, has retired from acting.

36:56 Unknown I think he's an agent now and he didn't want to come back and do it.

36:59 Unknown So they brought him in as his brother.

37:01 Unknown Uh, and, and apparently he'd actually been offered the role originally way back whenever and he couldn't do it.

37:10 Unknown So it went to Harry Goaz and it's like, yeah.

37:14 Unknown Um, but again, it's that thing, that thing that you can sort of, you kind of appreciate where it's like, for fuck's sake, dad, leave it.

37:25 Unknown Yeah.

37:26 Unknown When, when a parent gets to that point where it's like, look, you may not be able to hack this anymore.

37:35 Unknown Can you please be fucking sensible about this?

37:39 Unknown Yeah.

37:40 Unknown Which is, which is that horrible sort of, there's that horrible moment.

37:44 Unknown No doubt Ted will, I mean, Ted probably having about four weeks time, but you know, it's that horrible moment that you do have at one point where it's like, why am I the fucking parent now?

37:54 Unknown Yeah.

37:55 Unknown Because you're having to tell them to fucking behave themselves.

37:58 Unknown Yeah.

37:59 Unknown Or, you know, do something properly.

38:01 Unknown And yeah, I think that they, I think that, that plays out beautifully.

38:06 Unknown And I, I love, I also love the economy of this film because at one point I was like, is this jumping around in time?

38:16 Unknown Hmm.

38:17 Unknown Which it kind of does.

38:19 Unknown Yeah.

38:19 Unknown But not, it's not sort of, it's not sort of over, like overly, you know, you're not sort of like picking up on shit from, oh, right, this is meant to be three weeks later or something like that.

38:30 Unknown Yeah.

38:31 Unknown But there is just sort of like, there's certain bits like the, the second attack is played out with him being told that they've found the body, which is obviously the next day.

38:41 Unknown Hmm.

38:41 Unknown And so you get a bit of sort of odd transitions of time, but also there's a lot of, you, like you said, Lee, it's sort of, because it's where it slams you into every scene.

38:54 Unknown But there's very little sort of walking, if you see what I mean.

38:59 Unknown Yeah.

39:00 Unknown There's not much sort of, you just go into them.

39:03 Unknown Yeah.

39:03 Unknown And again, as you say, with the murders as well, obviously the passage of time, there's the first two killings on the full moon.

39:11 Unknown Then there isn't anything for a month, but it doesn't, it doesn't have to tell you that.

39:15 Unknown You just kind of get it.

39:17 Unknown Yeah.

39:17 Unknown It's a werewolf.

39:18 Unknown So you just kind of work that in your head.

39:20 Unknown But yeah, so you have, so there's anything that happens between finding the body and the next killing could happen any time in that 30 day window.

39:30 Unknown And you don't know how much they've jumped from one week to the next.

39:34 Unknown Is that apart from, you know, like you see the funeral.

39:37 Unknown So you see him at the, him at the, at the crime scene.

39:41 Unknown Then it's the funeral.

39:43 Unknown And then it's, well, we know this is going to happen again tonight.

39:46 Unknown So it's all smashed together.

39:48 Unknown But yeah, it just does it in such a nice, not a nice way.

39:54 Unknown Like, I don't know.

39:55 Unknown Yeah.

39:55 Unknown I mean, it's jerky, but it's supposed to be.

39:58 Unknown It works.

39:58 Unknown Yeah.

39:59 Unknown I don't, and you're absolutely right, Adam.

40:01 Unknown This is a film that on paper.

40:03 Unknown You should.

40:04 Unknown Yeah.

40:05 Unknown And I, I just, it is in my top 10 films of the last decade.

40:10 Unknown It absolutely nailed it.

40:12 Unknown And it's the comedy that just, that was what I picked up on to begin with.

40:18 Unknown Like the laughs in this have made me laugh out loud.

40:21 Unknown Like nothing else in so long.

40:23 Unknown Like him slapping everybody.

40:26 Unknown Do you think it is him?

40:27 Unknown Like a lot to do with him as, as the actor or the character?

40:31 Unknown Yeah.

40:32 Unknown Cause.

40:32 Unknown Yeah.

40:32 Unknown I think because he wrote it and he acted, I think he obviously has, he's written it for

40:37 Unknown his own comic timing.

40:39 Unknown So that character just works so perfectly for him.

40:43 Unknown But it's the same with the father, you know, like the, when they're all about to go out and

40:48 Unknown he says, I won't ask you to join me in prayer.

40:50 Unknown Cause of the God damn life.

40:55 Unknown That's it.

40:55 Unknown Yeah.

40:55 Unknown There's a lot of down to earth elements in it.

40:58 Unknown I think it's, and I, I completely related to the, you know, uh, to Jim Cummings.

41:04 Unknown He just, yeah.

41:06 Unknown He got it across so well.

41:08 Unknown Somebody going through what he's going through.

41:10 Unknown Yeah.

41:11 Unknown The interesting thing was, is that in the, in the interview that I watched is he said,

41:16 Unknown um, uh, they said, Oh, you know, is it, you, obviously you have starred in this cause he's,

41:23 Unknown he's done a film before this called Thunder Road.

41:26 Unknown Yes.

41:27 Unknown Yeah.

41:28 Unknown Have you seen it Lee?

41:29 Unknown I haven't, but I wanted it cause I'm going to watch it definitely.

41:33 Unknown Yeah.

41:33 Unknown Cause, cause that was based, that's based on like a short film he did.

41:37 Unknown And again, he is playing the, the main character.

41:41 Unknown Um, and they were sort of in the interview, they were like, so is this,

41:46 Unknown like, uh, is this a budgetary choice or is it, he's like, this is absolutely budgetary.

41:50 Unknown If I could get, actually he, it was, he said, he said, if I could get Jake Gyllenhaal

41:55 Unknown or Ryan Reynolds to play these characters, you know, why would I have me doing it?

42:02 Unknown You know, he, but I think, you know, I think, which has a lot of modesty if nothing else,

42:08 Unknown I think, you know, but if he carries on the way he's done this, you know,

42:14 Unknown I'd have to watch anything.

42:18 Unknown A lot of, a lot of the, a lot of the reviews I saw for this were a lot of people were like,

42:23 Unknown oh, it wasn't, wasn't as good as Thunder Road, but I think also there's, it's the usual story

42:29 Unknown where it's like, right, so we've gone genre now.

42:31 Unknown So immediately, immediately, that's not as good.

42:36 Unknown Yeah.

42:36 Unknown It's not as good as it really, no, because it's got, it's actually got an interesting plot.

42:42 Unknown What we actually want to see is a couple walk around Paris,

42:45 Unknown how much they ignore each other.

42:48 Unknown But you know, they're going to do it.

42:52 Unknown And, and, and then the credits roll with Flaming Lips playing.

42:57 Unknown Fuck off.

42:58 Unknown I think it's so people can say, oh, no, I liked his earlier stuff.

43:01 Unknown But, you know, everyone's into him.

43:03 Unknown I think we're already at that stage where it's like, well, you know, it's not as good as early work.

43:07 Unknown What, the film he did a year before?

43:09 Unknown Yeah.

43:10 Unknown That's not his fucking early work.

43:12 Unknown And the thing is, so I watched the trailer for Thunder Road and I have ordered it and I'm definitely going to watch it.

43:17 Unknown But basically, it looks like this film without a werewolf.

43:21 Unknown Yes, that's what I gather.

43:23 Unknown Yeah, it's a man who's a cop and his wife is divorcing him and then his mother dies.

43:27 Unknown And he basically just has a massive mental breakdown.

43:31 Unknown But it's still a comedy drama.

43:33 Unknown So it feels, I think it's going to feel like if this happened to exactly the same thing happened to a different person in a different town.

43:42 Unknown But it's ultimately going to be his reaction to everything.

43:46 Unknown Because it's a curious thing as well, because I think that it's refreshing in a way where you've got something where it's like, yeah, this is a guy having a breakdown and it's horrible.

44:02 Unknown But whatever happens, there is funny shit.

44:08 Unknown Yeah.

44:08 Unknown You know, it's like when you hear stories of people's, you know, people's struggles with like mental illness, with addiction and things like that.

44:17 Unknown There is still levity.

44:19 Unknown There is still humour because that's how life works.

44:23 Unknown Yeah.

44:23 Unknown So you still do have things where it's like, well, looking back on that, that was a fucked up situation.

44:28 Unknown But it's a funny fucked up situation rather than, you know, it doesn't have to be abject misery wall to wall sort of thing.

44:37 Unknown Yeah.

44:37 Unknown And, but I mean, actually, the bit that got me more than anything is just because, well, I mean, as you can see the state of me in terms of tiredness.

44:49 Unknown But just the bit where it was like, they, they do what turns out to be a dream sequence.

44:57 Unknown But they do that like really good thing where he goes and researches about werewolves.

45:01 Unknown And then there's the sort of, as it turns out, a dream sequence where like everything's coming together and there's people shouting and it's like, you should have sold this.

45:11 Unknown And then the bloke just wakes him up.

45:13 Unknown Yeah.

45:13 Unknown Fuck off.

45:14 Unknown And it was like, just like, yeah, you, look, you want to be thankful it's me.

45:22 Unknown Yeah.

45:23 Unknown Any, any of, any of the other boys down the precinct, you could have had a hole in your head.

45:27 Unknown So.

45:28 Unknown Just this justification of it.

45:30 Unknown Just next time, ask yourself, has a policeman come in and taken all your books out on scary shit and then fallen asleep?

45:36 Unknown Maybe.

45:36 Unknown Yeah.

45:37 Unknown Don't surprise him.

45:38 Unknown How's that for an idea?

45:38 Unknown Yeah.

45:39 Unknown But it's, yeah.

45:44 Unknown And it's, it's also one of those ones where you sort of think, again, he manages to make it because he's, it's, it's not a nice character.

45:53 Unknown It's a funny character, but he's not, you know, there is no way you wouldn't want to go for a fuck.

45:57 Unknown You wouldn't want to live with him or go for a drink.

45:59 Unknown No, you wouldn't want someone who worked like that, work with you.

46:03 Unknown He's just so.

46:04 Unknown Yeah.

46:05 Unknown Because they're so fucking intense.

46:06 Unknown But actually in terms of, you know, he, he just manages to make that.

46:14 Unknown He really makes that workable.

46:16 Unknown So that you are on the guy's side, even though he is essentially appellant to everyone and everything.

46:24 Unknown It's just, to me, the thing is, there is nothing, like, if you get upset with someone at work and punch him, like, that can be pretty, but an open-handed slap is like, I'm not even trying to hurt you.

46:40 Unknown This is just telling you what a bitch you are being.

46:42 Unknown And it's just, his answer to everything is just the slap around the face.

46:46 Unknown You just want to be him, really, don't you, Lee?

46:47 Unknown I do just want to be him.

46:48 Unknown I don't like him much, but I really want to be him.

46:50 Unknown When he slaps that coroner, he's clapping his head.

46:53 Unknown Yes.

46:54 Unknown I just screamed.

46:56 Unknown It's so funny.

46:56 Unknown Yeah.

46:58 Unknown That, that, that totally fucking surprised me, that bit of story.

47:02 Unknown It's like you say, like you say, you're used to watching things where it's like, oh, yeah, he decked him or whatever like that.

47:09 Unknown But just the slap, it's like, it is, it is just like, it is a very sort of, it's just disciplinary.

47:17 Unknown Yeah.

47:17 Unknown Do you know what I mean?

47:18 Unknown It's not, it's not like full-blown aggression or anything else like that.

47:21 Unknown It's almost like, behave your fucking self.

47:24 Unknown Yeah.

47:26 Unknown Oh, it's just hilarious.

47:28 Unknown But, and that's the thing, like, there's bits of it as well where, as you say, even like the, the quite dark scenes, like the scenes where you can see him drinking and stuff again.

47:41 Unknown Um, and you see him, he takes those two cans out and drinks them and then immediately goes and drinks a whole bottle of mouthwash and stuff.

47:48 Unknown And like, it's, it's getting quite dark.

47:50 Unknown And then for him to just smash through the oven door, like, like.

47:55 Unknown Yes.

47:55 Unknown It takes attention to it, doesn't it?

47:57 Unknown Because you kind of laugh and then you go, oh, I shouldn't have laughed at that.

47:59 Unknown And then you're like, well, I've done it now and it's over and we've moved into the next scene and suddenly it's a completely different atmosphere.

48:05 Unknown Like, and it just, everything just caught me off guard.

48:09 Unknown Like, and it was the same with the humour.

48:11 Unknown You'd get into, um, like the other way.

48:14 Unknown You'd have a really funny scene and all of a sudden something really dark had happened unexpectedly.

48:20 Unknown And mid-laugh and sort of take you off of it.

48:23 Unknown And I really liked that.

48:24 Unknown It shouldn't work.

48:26 Unknown This film should have been an absolute mess and I should have hated everything about it.

48:31 Unknown But I could not have loved it more.

48:33 Unknown It's, yeah, I just don't know how he managed it.

48:36 Unknown It's genius.

48:36 Unknown And the, I mean, and obviously like the relationship with his daughter, but it's an interesting thing where it's because obviously both parents are fucking it up.

48:51 Unknown Yeah.

48:52 Unknown Because like the mum's just absent and obviously he is a fucking wreck.

48:58 Unknown But, and, um, but again, that, that even, even that comes down to it where it's like, it ends up with bits where the daughter's having to say to him, right.

49:09 Unknown Like that, that is grueling.

49:12 Unknown Yeah.

49:12 Unknown Where she's just pleading with him to go to bed.

49:15 Unknown Yeah.

49:15 Unknown Yeah.

49:15 Unknown That was really hard.

49:17 Unknown That is, that is really, really harsh.

49:19 Unknown But, but again, he's only do, it's exactly what he's doing with his father.

49:25 Unknown Yeah.

49:26 Unknown Where it's like, again, she's, or she's already having to step up and parent him because it's like, dad, you're a fucking mess.

49:34 Unknown You know, please, can we not do this now?

49:36 Unknown Can we just, yeah.

49:37 Unknown Yeah.

49:38 Unknown And it's, you know, they do have some, that's, again, I like that it doesn't pull a punch to try and make, they don't at any point try and make him a likable character, but it just works.

49:54 Unknown And you are still on his side because you can, it's that thing of, you can see that essentially at heart there's a decent person.

50:00 Unknown Yeah.

50:01 Unknown His intentions are good.

50:03 Unknown Yeah.

50:04 Unknown He just does everything the wrong way.

50:06 Unknown Yeah.

50:06 Unknown And it's, but also it's that same thing.

50:09 Unknown And I, being a regular, like, well, being a true crime, you know, I have, I love true crime and things like that.

50:23 Unknown And the amount of stuff where it's small town sheriff's departments in America where they just fuck shit up.

50:31 Unknown Yeah.

50:32 Unknown Through laziness.

50:34 Unknown And through incompetence.

50:36 Unknown And I'm glad that that's in there as well, where it's like, they do say a lot of the time, look, people, this is why people hate the police.

50:44 Unknown This is why people say what they do about the police.

50:47 Unknown This is what you guys are doing here is because none of you can be fucked to actually step up and do the thing properly or whatever.

50:55 Unknown And it's like when he's arguing with the guy about, because again, it is over the fucking top.

51:01 Unknown But where he's saying, right, take that fence, like the mailbox out of the ground.

51:05 Unknown Or the telephone, isn't it?

51:06 Unknown Yeah.

51:07 Unknown The telephone.

51:07 Unknown That's the story, yeah.

51:08 Unknown Just bring it to the station.

51:09 Unknown Yeah.

51:10 Unknown Yeah.

51:10 Unknown Just bring that.

51:11 Unknown Take it.

51:12 Unknown And it's like, really?

51:13 Unknown Yes, really.

51:14 Unknown Because this is a fucking murder investigation.

51:16 Unknown You've got to do your job.

51:18 Unknown Which again, I think this is another part of that thing like you were saying about where, like you were saying, Chris, where it's like, there's the small town thing of, well, we probably know this person who's doing this.

51:33 Unknown But equally, it's the small town thing of, we're not fucking prepared for this.

51:39 Unknown Yeah.

51:40 Unknown Yeah.

51:40 Unknown We're here to stop drunk drivers and, you know, teenage drinking or whatever like that.

51:49 Unknown Whereas actually, this is something where, yeah, none of us are on the, none of us are on this level to be dealing with this.

51:58 Unknown And it's like when they have to say, well, the FBI won't come in because there's only two.

52:02 Unknown It's not.

52:02 Unknown Yeah.

52:03 Unknown And it's not, it's not being committed on a federal highway and that sort of thing.

52:07 Unknown And it's lovely to see those little bits and pieces where it's like, oh, no, this is, this is the reality of it, you know.

52:13 Unknown And I loved it.

52:14 Unknown I loved the fact that they did have that conversation at the beginning where, yeah, they are just sitting in that diner and they're like, we're just small town cops.

52:21 Unknown You know, the feds will come in and wipe this up.

52:23 Unknown And he's like, no, we're the cops.

52:25 Unknown Stop relying on somebody else because we've got to do this.

52:29 Unknown Yeah.

52:30 Unknown Yeah.

52:30 Unknown And it's that sort of thing of stepping up, even though he can't do that because of his own problems.

52:39 Unknown But he still tries.

52:40 Unknown And I guess that's what he's done.

52:41 Unknown But he's still, yeah.

52:41 Unknown And you do, I mean, that's the thing is you do, well, they solve it in the end because of, essentially because of the doggedness of the two cops who actually care.

52:53 Unknown Yeah.

52:54 Unknown And admittedly, one of them is incapable.

52:55 Unknown And it's an interesting thing because I was, again, like reading up on it and stuff like that.

53:03 Unknown And they said, obviously, there's the bit at the end where he says to his daughter, oh, there's something for your protection in the drawer.

53:11 Unknown And she gets out the condoms and she's like, oh, well done, dad.

53:15 Unknown You know, you're being mature about this.

53:18 Unknown And then she looks in the drawer and they don't show you what's in there.

53:21 Unknown Yeah.

53:21 Unknown Yeah.

53:22 Unknown And, but most people have said it's his gun.

53:29 Unknown Because obviously he's no longer a police officer.

53:31 Unknown Yeah.

53:32 Unknown So he's obviously had to just address the fact that, yeah, no matter how much I want to do this, I'm clearly not the right person to be doing this.

53:42 Unknown And, yeah, so a lot of people have said, is it that he's left her his gun?

53:48 Unknown Because it's, yeah, he's like.

53:49 Unknown But does he, he sort of goes to come back, doesn't he?

53:52 Unknown He looks like he's thinking about going back in.

53:55 Unknown Yeah, it's when the two boys go past and they're like going on about.

53:58 Unknown Oh, there's a girl in room six days.

54:00 Unknown Fresh mate.

54:00 Unknown Fresh mate, yeah.

54:02 Unknown You assume he's going to turn around and punch the boys.

54:05 Unknown And then he doesn't.

54:06 Unknown So you're sort of like, oh, no, he's learning to control his anger.

54:09 Unknown So you sort of feel like, yeah, he's moving forward.

54:12 Unknown Perhaps that's it.

54:12 Unknown I mean, he's got a lot less pressure if he's no longer having to step up.

54:16 Unknown And I guess in that situation, it made sense for him to become the chief of police.

54:22 Unknown I'm assuming he's worked in there for many years and obviously his dad is.

54:25 Unknown So, yeah, he just couldn't handle that pressure.

54:28 Unknown I think a lot of, from what I gather, again, like on true crime stuff, the cases and stuff

54:35 Unknown like that, from what I gather, there is an element of, like, it's almost like a royal succession.

54:42 Unknown Like a line where it's like, oh, yeah, my dad was the sheriff.

54:47 Unknown So now I'm the sheriff and then my son will be the sheriff.

54:50 Unknown It's like a separatism.

54:51 Unknown Yeah, I'm getting my, you know, my kids to come back.

54:53 Unknown Yeah, yeah.

54:54 Unknown And it is regardless of merit.

54:57 Unknown Yeah.

54:57 Unknown Yeah.

54:58 Unknown I mean, some might get through that, okay.

55:01 Unknown And, you know, whether they do a good job or not, it might not affect them too much.

55:04 Unknown But you can imagine if you've already got quite a lot of other stresses that you're not handling,

55:08 Unknown you probably don't need that.

55:10 Unknown No.

55:11 Unknown And I think, you know, it's, yeah.

55:14 Unknown I mean, the fact that this is essentially a wacky episode of Scooby-Doo, you know, it's

55:25 Unknown quite interesting that we've drawn all of this out of it, but it doesn't take away the,

55:29 Unknown doesn't take away the, any of the sort of, the actual dramatic meat of it is still there.

55:40 Unknown But, and, yeah, I want to say it's more recommendedly.

55:46 Unknown Absolutely, yeah.

55:48 Unknown Yeah, I mean, it's, and it is, it's one, as I say, I've watched this pretty much every

55:53 Unknown month since January when I first saw it.

55:55 Unknown And still there's stuff that I forgot.

55:57 Unknown I forgot about him when she's unconscious using her thumb to open the phone.

56:03 Unknown And then he turns up at the boyfriend's house with a T-shirt wrapped around his face, kicks

56:07 Unknown his door in.

56:09 Unknown And then when the mum pulls the T-shirt off and realises it's the sheriff, the first thing

56:12 Unknown she does is start punching her.

56:15 Unknown Yeah.

56:18 Unknown Just, oh, yeah.

56:20 Unknown This film is, it's just got so many little bits that it is one of those films I can just

56:26 Unknown go back to again and again, you know, in a short time.

56:30 Unknown And you just forget how, how fantastic it is.

56:34 Unknown Like, it's so ridiculous and yet it doesn't feel unbelievable, you know, like that scene.

56:39 Unknown It's like, somehow, it's, yeah.

56:41 Unknown You can believe that possibly could happen.

56:43 Unknown Yeah, and a small town would definitely do that.

56:45 Unknown Yeah.

56:45 Unknown Well, it's that, again, it is that Coen Brothers thing.

56:50 Unknown The Coen Brothers real, real sort of knack is to make sort of stuff that feels, that shouldn't

56:59 Unknown feel realistic, realistic.

57:00 Unknown Yeah.

57:01 Unknown You know, you, you never, you never lose, in all the great Coen Brothers films, you don't

57:06 Unknown lose any of the reality of it.

57:10 Unknown No matter how fucked up the plot or fucked up the participants in that plot are.

57:17 Unknown It's always, it's always like a wacky story in a mundane setting, which is why I love them.

57:22 Unknown Like, they take an idea that should be lunacy and over the top and so unbelievable and then

57:30 Unknown make such normal, average, everyday people have those experiences that kind of grounds

57:36 Unknown it enough for it to, yeah, just kind of work.

57:39 Unknown I'm also, I'm also going to say the music was fucking great in this.

57:44 Unknown Yeah.

57:44 Unknown And I can't, I can't remember his name, but the composer is the same composer as, um, uh,

57:53 Unknown the ritual.

57:54 Unknown Is it, it's not Jim Cummings?

57:55 Unknown Oh.

57:55 Unknown Yeah.

57:56 Unknown He didn't write the theme tune, sing the theme tune, you know, acts, everything.

58:00 Unknown He hasn't taken it that Darth Maurenguy, it's not lying.

58:04 Unknown Music by Stig Basvik has whistled, has whistled by Darth Maurenguy.

58:09 Unknown So is it?

58:10 Unknown Ben Lovett.

58:11 Unknown Ben Lovett, that's it.

58:12 Unknown Yeah.

58:13 Unknown And he did the ritual, which is another soundtrack that I really fucking, I mean, I like the

58:18 Unknown ritual film, but yeah, the soundtrack to that was great.

58:20 Unknown And again, this is quite sort of, you know, it's not, it's not a comedy score.

58:28 Unknown No.

58:28 Unknown It scores the actual, the content of the, the actual, the dramatic weight of the film,

58:36 Unknown not the, you know, you don't have that thing of, well, it's a comedy, so obviously we've

58:41 Unknown done Calypso music.

58:42 Unknown The end bit though, with, is it Auld Lang Syne, isn't it, at the end?

58:46 Unknown Yeah.

58:47 Unknown Yeah.

58:48 Unknown And you've got the whole crazy scene, but then with that playing quite sort of calmly,

58:54 Unknown and it just works though, doesn't it, really well.

58:56 Unknown And the cinematography as well, we should mention, Sir Natalie Kingston did the cinematography

59:01 Unknown on it.

59:02 Unknown That opening scene of the mountains, where they keep, project like you see it, and then

59:07 Unknown it fades out, the next lot is like upside down, and you keep getting massive, the massive

59:12 Unknown scapes to show you just how small that town is, in such a massive range of mountains.

59:18 Unknown As you say, do you get that real sense that the people who live there, live there and they're

59:22 Unknown cut off.

59:23 Unknown Nobody's coming in from outside to mess with anything.

59:25 Unknown Yeah, you're not going to go down to the next town, because the next town is like over a

59:30 Unknown fucking mountain.

59:31 Unknown Yeah.

59:32 Unknown Exactly, yeah.

59:33 Unknown It's just, oh yeah, and that really was a really good way of sort of emphasising that

59:38 Unknown and creating that, I don't know, it's not claustrophobic, but yeah, that very cut off,

59:44 Unknown isolated, yeah.

59:46 Unknown So yes, fantastic.

59:48 Unknown Good one.

59:49 Unknown I'm glad you both liked it, and that Jennifer liked it, and that's why she said, I will come

59:54 Unknown on and talk about that film, because it's amazing.

59:57 Unknown So technically, this means this is the first film that Jennifer's enjoyed for about a year.

1:00:01 Unknown Yeah.

1:00:02 Unknown Well, yeah, or the one that I've actually had, yeah, it was something different to talk about,

1:00:07 Unknown I suppose.

1:00:08 Unknown Because a lot of them are good, you know, the films you do are entertaining, but I suppose

1:00:13 Unknown this stood out a little bit as a bit different.

1:00:16 Unknown So, yeah.

1:00:18 Unknown Excellent.

1:00:20 Unknown So, Chris, as we've been discussing it behind your back, as it were.

1:00:24 Unknown Oh, no.

1:00:26 Unknown Adam pointed out in the week that, excuse me, we're now 120-odd episodes in, and we have

1:00:33 Unknown not covered as much hammer as we should have done for what an important part of the genre

1:00:40 Unknown it is, which I could not.

1:00:42 Unknown It's certainly an important touchstone for us.

1:00:46 Unknown Yeah.

1:00:48 Unknown We've always connected on Hammer.

1:00:50 Unknown You know, that's, yeah.

1:00:53 Unknown So, we have decided, Chris, that we are going to take you right back to where it all began,

1:01:00 Unknown almost.

1:01:01 Unknown Ooh.

1:01:02 Unknown Almost.

1:01:02 Unknown And so, Adam came back with some suggestions, and we had a little chat, and we've decided

1:01:08 Unknown we are going to cover Dracula.

1:01:12 Unknown Ooh.

1:01:12 Unknown Okay.

1:01:13 Unknown For our American listeners, that is horrors of Dracula.

1:01:17 Unknown Mm.

1:01:17 Unknown For those of us in the UK, it is just Dracula.

1:01:21 Unknown Mm.

1:01:22 Unknown Yeah, as soon as Adam said about it, I was like, I cannot believe we've not watched it.

1:01:27 Unknown I really feel.

1:01:29 Unknown Again, I think it's one of those kind of unwritten things.

1:01:32 Unknown For Adam and I, because we've talked about it so much, and because we've seen it so much,

1:01:36 Unknown we've...

1:01:37 Unknown It...

1:01:38 Unknown In a sense, we almost must have done it.

1:01:40 Unknown Yeah.

1:01:41 Unknown It's always there, to such a degree that you never think about it, because it's always there.

1:01:45 Unknown Mm.

1:01:46 Unknown Also, it's just nice to actually cover, again, it's, you know, obviously, Dracula is one

1:01:54 Unknown of the original horror stories or novels that sort of essentially spawns the genre.

1:02:04 Unknown So is this a Christopher Lee?

1:02:07 Unknown Yes.

1:02:08 Unknown Yes.

1:02:09 Unknown Okay.

1:02:09 Unknown So we've covered vampires, but we haven't covered the count.

1:02:13 Unknown Mm.

1:02:14 Unknown No.

1:02:16 Unknown Yeah.

1:02:16 Unknown So we thought, really, this is a definite, definite one.

1:02:20 Unknown We've done lots of vampires, but we haven't done any takes on Dracula yet, have we?

1:02:24 Unknown Apart from...

1:02:24 Unknown No.

1:02:25 Unknown We haven't done...

1:02:26 Unknown We haven't done...

1:02:26 Unknown Or...

1:02:27 Unknown No, we've not done Nosferatu.

1:02:30 Unknown We've not done Bela Lugosi.

1:02:31 Unknown So we saw Bela Lugosi, um...

1:02:36 Unknown I forgot.

1:02:38 Unknown Oh, Abbott and Costello.

1:02:40 Unknown Yes.

1:02:41 Unknown Yeah.

1:02:41 Unknown Yeah.

1:02:41 Unknown So got a little taste of Bela Lugosi.

1:02:45 Unknown And we did do a bonus episode on the Steve Mothat, Mark Gatiss.

1:02:51 Unknown Yes.

1:02:51 Unknown But that obviously did dive, you know, that, um, went off topic fairly quickly.

1:03:01 Unknown Yeah.

1:03:03 Unknown Like, in terms of, like, the, the sort of plot.

1:03:06 Unknown Yeah.

1:03:07 Unknown Because you, you, you essentially get the first, you essentially get the first sort of few chapters

1:03:12 Unknown of Dracula.

1:03:13 Unknown Then you get the bit that they don't tell you about in Dracula.

1:03:17 Unknown Mm.

1:03:17 Unknown The voice.

1:03:18 Unknown Particularly.

1:03:19 Unknown Yeah.

1:03:19 Unknown And then just a load of made-up shit with, um, the cast of Oli Oaks.

1:03:24 Unknown Mm-hmm.

1:03:27 Unknown I think that's fair, that's fair estimation of it.

1:03:28 Unknown Maybe then.

1:03:29 Unknown I still like it.

1:03:30 Unknown Maybe for that in two weeks' time, you should all try and watch various Dracula-related

1:03:35 Unknown or listen to or read.

1:03:38 Unknown So everything you talk about could be Dracula-related.

1:03:40 Unknown How am I doing that for 30 years?

1:03:43 Unknown No, I'm, I'm just thinking that I'm Dracula, to be honest.

1:03:45 Unknown That's the only thing.

1:03:46 Unknown Yeah.

1:03:46 Unknown I was trying to think through things that I could suggest.

1:03:48 Unknown That's the only thing I can think of.

1:03:50 Unknown How awful is that?

1:03:51 Unknown Do you want to hear the brilliant Dracula joke I heard online the other day?

1:03:55 Unknown Yes.

1:03:57 Unknown Well, so I work at a factory making little plastic Draculas.

1:04:02 Unknown There's only two of us on the production line, so I have to make every second count.

1:04:05 Unknown Oh, yeah, okay.

1:04:11 Unknown Okay.

1:04:14 Unknown And on that, I'm going to go on that thing to myself until I fall through the door of the oven.

1:04:22 Unknown Our oven's up here, honey.

1:04:24 Unknown You don't have to be about to sit at all.

1:04:27 Unknown He'd get a stepladder.

1:04:29 Unknown Yeah, he might.

1:04:30 Unknown If he does that, please record it.

1:04:35 Unknown Excellent.

1:04:35 Unknown So I'm glad you all enjoyed it.

1:04:36 Unknown Thanks ever so much for listening, everybody.

1:04:40 Unknown Thanks very much for listening to the Mos Eisley Happy Hour that everyone seems to be enjoying.

1:04:46 Unknown Go and check out the Not For Everyone podcast.

1:04:48 Unknown If it isn't up now, they are doing their 100th episode.

1:04:53 Unknown I won't spoil what it's about, but we have seen behind the curtain,

1:04:56 Unknown and you and I are going to be watching it probably tomorrow night.

1:04:59 Unknown In preparation.

1:05:00 Unknown I'm going to watch it because I've never seen it before.

1:05:03 Unknown What?

1:05:04 Unknown Yeah.

1:05:06 Unknown Have I seen it before?

1:05:07 Unknown God, are you in for an exciting film?

1:05:08 Unknown Yeah, you have.

1:05:09 Unknown Okay.

1:05:11 Unknown It's wonderful.

1:05:12 Unknown Excellent.

1:05:12 Unknown So go and check out Dracula or Horrors of Dracula,

1:05:15 Unknown and we will see you all in a fortnight's time.

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