Ep 180
Ep 180 Alien
In space, no one can hear Lee complain, but we’re back on Earth, so get ready to hear our discussion on Ridley Scott’s “Alien”. A film in which John Hurt rehearses his guest appearance in “Spacebal…
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4 moments across 3 episodes where Adam, Lee or Chris talk about John Hurt.
And, starring, Tom Meeten, who is the shaman in Sightseers and Alice Lowe, Dan Skinner, or Angelos, as you may know him, like does a lot of stuff with Vic and Bob. Rufus Jones. Niamh Cusack and Geoffrey McGivern. Now Geoffrey McGivern's one of those people who is just, it's Crimewatch. If you know him, you'll recognize him. It's because he is one, he's like, he's like the, he's like the sort of pre-Kevin Eldon, Kevin Eldon. One of those guys who's just in, he's, for example, he is either Biggum from the, standing at the back dressed stupidly and looking stupid party. Oh yeah. In Blackadder the Third. Yes, yes. Oh, I know him. Yeah, him. And he's in Chellmswood 123 and Frying LoRry and loads and loads of shit. And he's, he was in that thing that, Mitchell and Webb did after Peep Show. He was the disreputable grandfather in that or uncle or something like that. But anyway, so The Ghoul is, despite all those names in it, The Ghoul is serious, it's not a comedy film, it's just a straight, well, it starts off as a straight thriller where, it's a detective. He's being called in for an unusual murder that has maybe has some sort of weird properties to it. Like, how does this murder take place, you know, without a supernatural element, shall we suggest? I don't know. and then to sort of find out more about it, he goes undercover with, a psychiatrist. Who is, the psychiatrist to one of their leads. and starts telling her the and goes undercover as a depressed person to try and get more facts and more sort of like info on this other guy. and then possibly the film reveals to you that actually he is going to see a psychotherapist. And he is really depressed and the whole, detective thing might be a fantasy. Or it might not be. I remember you raving about this at the time, and I still haven't gotten round to seeing it, but I definitely. Yeah, it does sound interesting. Yeah. It, it sits under my thing, I've now decided that there might be others out there, but as far as I'm concerned, a hard and fast rule is if a film is called The Ghoul, it's fucking awesome. Yes. Because because the Boris Karloff one's fucking great. The one with Peter Cushing and John Hurt's fucking amazing, I love that film. And this again, I just really. And again, like I say, it's a lot of, you know, it's mostly people from that sort of Mighty Boosh kind of era of comedy, like say it's like Alice Lowe, so it's like Sightseers, you got those same sort of people in there. Deadly serious and you're like, oh, actually this is they're really good fucking actors and it's not a, you know what I mean? I mean it is the classic thing that you have to be a great actor to do comedy. but yeah, they're they're just like everyone in it's fantastic. And as I say, it's sort of vies each way because then he goes to. He first goes to a psychiatrist, gets referred to another psychiatrist, but that psychiatrist is into, occultism and esoterica. And starts talking about like loops, time loops and things like that. And it all sort of feeds together, plus the guy's that, you know, so. Is he a detective pretending to have depression or is he a guy with depression who pretends he's a detective to try and get through his day because it's a fantasy? But also is there possibly something actually supernatural occurring in so much as occult practical magic, basically, you know, could that be in the key and it's like, yeah. It sounds awesome. But it's a great film and I will say this, this is, I don't feel I've spoilt it because I don't think it gives you a clear answer. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. You get to the end of it and it's like that could this could go either way, you know, is this which is the fantasy could go either way if you see what I mean? Yeah. So, you know, because he's talking to the psychiatrist, the depressed person, it's like, oh, so what do you do? Well, I just walk around the streets and what do you do? sort of pretend I'm investigating things like I'm a policeman or something like that. And it sort of, yeah, sort of snowballs from there that you're suddenly like, yeah, shit, which way round is this now? And it's, yeah, and it's really, yeah, and it was you saying about Under the Skin, it's that same sort of vibe, you know, where it's like very sort of, very sort of like a lot of mood and sort of an overall feeling to it, you know, a sort of like a sort of darkness or sinisterness and everything. But yeah, so yeah, that's my, my first recommendation is The Ghoul. Sounds amazing. From 2016, but also any other film called The Ghoul is good. Is probably worth watching. Yes.
And it's and actually that's that again, that was one of the things because Ben Wheatley was so pleased that he got to work with John Hurt because he called him they he had to get him in especially to record the version of Jerusalem that's over that bit where it's like and do those feet.
And I think Ben Wheatley was just like, fuck it, I got to work with fucking John Hurt.
But basically he is found as a baby demon and is looked after by a professor who is played by John Hurt in the Guillermo del Toro films.
In space, no one can hear Lee complain, but we’re back on Earth, so get ready to hear our discussion on Ridley Scott’s “Alien”. A film in which John Hurt rehearses his guest appearance in “Spacebal…