Bampire - Interview with Zoe & Malachite

0:23 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.

0:26 Adam I'm Adam.

0:28 Lee And we're here this evening for something really different and really exciting.

0:33 Lee we heard about a new movie coming out and we've been contacted by the makers, both writers we have here with us this evening.

0:40 Lee so that's Malachite Zakaya, is that correct? Awesome. And Zoe Wasserman.

0:47 Lee Welcome guys, how are you doing?

0:49 Malachite Oh, so good. Thank you for having us.

0:51 Zoe Yeah, very excited. We're excited to talk about our project. I mean, it's all we think about.

0:59 Lee We I think that's the thing with independent movies, like it must

1:03 Lee I I've never been a part, but where you have so much to do, it it must be hugely time consuming, yeah, and you must have to fill so many different roles to to get through a project like this.

1:14 Zoe Oh yeah.

1:15 Zoe And we had very few people to fill those roles, so for every one person we had, they did four to five jobs.

1:21 Zoe And that's just, you know, where we're at in the industry.

1:24 Zoe fulfilling those roles is very expensive, it's very time consuming and when it's not what someone is doing on a professional level at that point in their lives, it's also hard to make that kind of time.

1:34 Zoe So every single person actually went out of their way, took PTO, just really committed and gave us everything that they had to spare for the entire year and a half that we were in pre-production and production.

1:48 Zoe and it's crazy, like you said, with the timeline, we were in pre-production for

1:54 Zoe a year and three months and we filmed the movie in three weeks.

1:58 Zoe So you prepped for this long.

2:00 Malachite And then it is crunch time.

2:00 Malachite And you just gotta nail it.

2:02 Malachite It's kind of this thing where like if you are an independent filmmaker and you have even an idea for a movie you want to make, it starts out on that level of almost like a dream or like a like a huge goal, but you don't know what steps to take to get to it.

2:14 Malachite Because you don't have all these resources available and so you even with the curating a script that you feel like is possible to achieve on a lower budget or without that Hollywood support.

2:22 Malachite from there through you're sort of just building this like, okay, I don't know how I'm going to get this to happen, but the story's in my head.

2:29 Malachite I'm passionate enough about it and so finding like, oh, what can I tweak or what pieces fit and and I can build around those, I can build my script around maybe like a location that I know we have in town, or just all that sort of a thing.

2:41 Malachite It becomes this very like ethereal dream building process for those first steps because it's like you're asking for something that you just don't have.

2:52 Malachite You don't have the help from the actors, you don't have a crew, you know you can't really pay them, at least not up front.

2:59 Malachite And so you go around just trying to pull on strings and and find like a almost it's like the world has to start working with you a little bit and and give you.

3:10 Malachite offer up on a plate like, oh this is your here's your gaffer, you just You met him like in line at a at a coffee shop.

3:18 Zoe Today.

3:19 Malachite But now you can make your film.

3:20 Zoe Yeah, exactly, like we actually met a group of people who moved to Oregon.

3:23 Zoe a handful of weeks before production. I mean, we did not know them from Adam nor Eve before they made it, you know, to Eugene kind of a thing.

3:29 Zoe and they reached out to Malachi because they saw some of his acting and they were really impressed.

3:35 Zoe He's actually one of the actors in the movie as well, he plays one of our lead roles.

3:38 Zoe and one of those people actually helped us build one of our most insane sets.

3:44 Zoe He actually constructed a fully movable, so like it's built of a ton of unique individual pieces that all can refit together and it's a cave.

3:55 Zoe So it's like a a cave that is now like built inside of a studio and it was one of our most important sets.

4:02 Zoe The hardest to find, the hardest to do practically because you're literally underground with a bunch of lighting equipment.

4:08 Zoe And blood that you're spraying everywhere.

4:10 Zoe No way.

4:11 Zoe Like who's going to let you do that?

4:13 Zoe so this was like, we have no idea how to do this, we have no one in our lives who builds caves for a living.

4:20 Zoe and then we meet this guy a handful of weeks before production and he's like, of course, yeah, sure, let me at it.

4:25 Zoe we didn't know if he could actually build a cave from scratch, but we trusted him.

4:30 Zoe He seemed confident.

4:32 Zoe And he just set off and really created just a magnificent set.

4:38 Zoe I mean, I was stunned when I saw the results.

4:41 Zoe So

4:42 Zoe Thank you, Michael Rucker.

4:44 Malachite He ended up saving us about $11,000 on what it would have costed to like order a pre-made cave set in a like professional filmmaking sort of sense.

4:52 Malachite and instead he made it cut it all out of foam and like painted it himself.

4:56 Lee Wow.

4:57 Lee Yeah, because I was going to say we've skipped so far.

4:59 Lee We haven't actually mentioned what the film is.

5:02 Adam Oh, sorry.

5:02 Lee That was my fault.

5:03 Malachite We get a little excited.

5:07 Malachite No, but our film is called Bampire and it is a amalgamation of if you imagine Bampi and Vampire brought together.

5:17 Malachite Basically the concept, so we live in Eugene, Oregon, on the West Coast of the US and there's a ton of deer around here, just everywhere.

5:29 Malachite we have like lots of wildlife and lots of forests.

5:32 Malachite But the deer will just pop up in the road, almost like every other day.

5:35 Malachite You'll see a deer and sometimes they'll just stare you down.

5:39 Malachite Like you know, honestly the most intimidating way of like, no hit me, I dare you.

5:44 Malachite And so we came up with this concept of like, well,

5:47 Malachite what if vampires are shapeshifters that can turn into bats, fanged bats, but also, what if they could turn into fanged deer?

5:57 Malachite and they're there is truly a species of deer that have fangs rather than horns.

6:02 Malachite They're called musk deer.

6:03 Malachite Crazy and so we realized all these are real, let's write a whole script around them.

6:08 Malachite but they live traditionally in like China and Russia and not over here in in Oregon, so we wrote this concept of like, okay,

6:16 Malachite what if they had discovered evidence of musk deer in this area and they go out to try a community group of community college students.

6:25 Malachite Driven by their over enthusiastic biology teacher, they all go out into the woods just to try and explore these like cave paintings that have been found of musk deer.

6:40 Zoe But that's not what happens.

6:42 Lee Fantastic.

6:43 Lee I mean great concept as soon as I saw the trailer, what I loved about the trailer is that it doesn't give too much away.

6:49 Lee we were discussing just before we before you guys joined us.

6:53 Lee We were saying how much we love the trailer, it looks incredible, it looks absolutely fantastic.

6:58 Lee And again, it's that it leaves enough ambiguity for you to be like it it draws you in but doesn't just give you the money shots of the film in the first five minutes and then just you know.

7:07 Lee When you watch it, you know, there's nothing worse than a a trailer, which is ultimately just the best scenes of the film.

7:13 Lee And then you just watch the trailer with extra bits in that drives us nuts.

7:22 Zoe Me too. I don't watch trailers anymore for that reason.

7:26 Malachite And it's it's been a hard thing to balance because we captured such cool pretty effect, like gore effects and we have like some practical creature transformations in the film.

7:36 Malachite that we want to show so badly.

7:40 Malachite Like it's it's one of the things we're most excited about.

7:42 Malachite We're huge horror fans and we set out just trying to find like all of the the.

7:46 Malachite best way to elevate some of these practical effects and so now that we've achieved them.

7:52 Malachite It's like, of course we want to show you guys our monster in full makeup and then.

7:56 Malachite But then you'll know who it is.

7:58 Zoe And then.

7:59 Malachite It's yeah, we've been really careful.

8:01 Adam It's that horrible balance, isn't it?

8:02 Adam Where it's like when when you're so especially because, I mean that's the great thing is we with a lot of independent films you're so excited about it and you're so into it that it's like, no, we want to show you.

8:11 Adam No, seriously, we want to show you this bit.

8:13 Adam And then but it's like, no, I've got to back off here.

8:16 Adam Because like you say.

8:18 Adam You you can't just you can't just sort of like just immediately give everything away and sort of you know, it's got to be there, so it's the part, because that I mean, I've always thought that's the thing when you watch sort of.

8:26 Adam like American Werewolf, they won't go too, they didn't go too detailed into what is the bit that everyone talks about when they've seen the film.

8:32 Adam And it's trusting to that sort of thing of, no, when they see this.

8:34 Adam They are going to be blown away.

8:36 Zoe And.

8:37 Malachite Yeah.

8:37 Zoe American Werewolf in London was one of our like initial dreams.

8:43 Zoe Like we're like, if we could have a transformation sequence that is even an echo.

8:47 Zoe of this greatness.

8:48 Zoe Then we have, you know, we'll have something to talk about.

8:51 Zoe And our director, Taylor Mordon, he was on board with that vision from the get go.

8:58 Zoe I mean, our group love of the 80s and the 90s nostalgia of practical effects of some of the staples of the movies that came out during those times.

9:06 Zoe Like we actually, we have this VHS camera, I don't know if you can see it back there, but it's all wrecked.

9:14 Zoe so we actually used this not just as a prop, we had an identical camera that we actually filmed found footage on.

9:19 Zoe So we're using real like VHS found footage in the movie itself that our director, who is like raised, born, you know, grew up in the 90s is still like a big nostalgia fan.

9:26 Zoe he actually was the guy like operating the camera and I mean he grew up like in high school using one of these.

9:31 Zoe So it really just reads like a pro in his element getting to do something that he's been excited about and wanting to do for a while.

9:39 Zoe and that's like the VHS found footage is what it is, but that goes for every single one of his shots.

9:44 Zoe I've never seen a man work a camera the way that guy does.

9:49 Adam Yeah, because I was I was looking into what he's done because he's done a lot of I see he's done like he's done a lot of short films, but most of his features have been documentary.

9:59 Adam But there was for example, one of them was the the last Blockbuster about the Blockbuster video store.

10:05 Adam So you know where that sort of where he's coming from.

10:07 Adam Like a lot of them and like music documentaries about the 90s and things like that.

10:12 Adam So you know that that's where, you know, that's where he's coming from, that's where his sort of interests lie and stuff like that.

10:16 Adam So it's you know, it's so when you guys so was it originally it started with you guys?

10:23 Adam and then he came on board and then and gradually a lot of the time a lot of indie filmmaking.

10:28 Adam always seems like a cult almost where it's like.

10:31 Adam One one person's got a vision.

10:34 Adam And you just have to draw so many people in.

10:37 Adam And they do have to give up a lot.

10:39 Zoe Oh my gosh, yeah.

10:40 Adam To sort of help and bring that about and everything and manifest the whole thing, so it's it kind of feels like that.

10:46 Adam But so it started so it started originally from you guys, it was your sort of like like script and was where it sort of the initial spark came from was yourselves.

10:53 Malachite Yes.

10:54 Malachite So Zoe and I sat down with that concept of like these deer could be vampires.

10:58 Malachite They want to make us crash so they can drink our blood.

11:02 Malachite And then we wrote that into just a really exciting, youthful, also just really grounded and realistic sort of script.

11:08 Malachite and brought it to Taylor because we he had just moved to town.

11:11 Malachite And we had seen his portfolio and kind of that just amazing like sense of like flavor that he brings to all of his projects.

11:18 Malachite And kind of youthfulness and his ability to just inspire and make contacts with people.

11:24 Malachite Like initially, we brought the script to Taylor and the first person we reached out to is we emailed Rick Baker, who does the the Werewolf transformations.

11:32 Malachite just as a dream, like no way we're going to get Rick Baker.

11:36 Malachite But.

11:37 Zoe Yeah.

11:38 Malachite But that's how we approach this whole film and Taylor really came in with that sense of like.

11:42 Malachite that attitude of like, well we might as well ask, like they might want to help us, it's you don't know until you try.

11:49 Malachite And through that attitude, he's been able to bring in just some amazing people to our film, which we would have made either way.

11:58 Malachite We would have made it with no famous actors with nothing, just with our friends in our backyard if we had to,

12:06 Malachite But so we wrote this great script that had all those elements and then we found Taylor who had that kind of mind.

12:12 Malachite And that skill set for bringing more and more people together.

12:19 Malachite And he was able to find a lot of amazing people, he got Diane Franklin, who is the princess in Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.

12:25 Adam Yeah.

12:25 Malachite She came in for a role.

12:27 Malachite And one of the sweetest people I've ever met, absolutely amazing, so talented.

12:32 Malachite She does a French a French accent in our film and it's like.

12:37 Malachite the just the vigor she approaches that with, like she brings out, is incredible.

12:42 Malachite And then we also went on to get Greg Sestero from The Room,

12:50 Malachite Hi Mark.

12:52 Zoe Hi Mark.

12:52 Malachite Oh, hi Mark.

12:53 Zoe I know.

12:54 Malachite We we were in contact with him for like half of a year and he was like, yeah, I'm interested for sure, this is awesome.

13:00 Malachite And so Taylor just kept talking to him about it and by the end, Greg actually came in and.

13:07 Malachite acts in our film and he did it for free, he did it as a volunteer.

13:11 Lee Oh, wow.

13:12 Zoe Yeah.

13:12 Zoe Just to support indie filmmaking.

13:14 Malachite Yeah, just because his relationship with Taylor and with our script and with trying to schedule with us and seeing how much we were just giving it all we could.

13:21 Malachite He's like, you know what, guys.

13:22 Malachite all you have you paid for my flight and that's all you need that's all I need.

13:26 Lee Wow.

13:28 Lee That's.

13:28 Lee That's incredible.

13:30 Lee I mean it's.

13:30 Lee It's fantastic to see people.

13:32 Lee But it it must be nice for you guys to have had this as you say this initial crazy idea in the car and then you kind of knock up a script.

13:40 Lee To think, we'll get some friends in.

13:41 Lee Maybe we'll make a short.

13:44 Lee And then before you know it, you've got people who you've, you know, yeah, who've come all this way and who you watched on screen as when you were younger.

13:52 Zoe And like, seriously.

13:53 Lee Have them excited by your idea must be really, really reassuring to know that it's not just some crazy idea that no one's going to no one's going to be on board with.

14:03 Lee Like you've just managed very easily to sell it to a whole group of people who you, you know, really aspire to be part with.

14:08 Malachite Yeah.

14:09 Zoe It feels like a real accomplishment just to have had the amount of energy and excitement and love.

14:15 Zoe I mean, there's no better word for it, it's love, you know, every single person who joined this project did it because they love filmmaking.

14:20 Zoe Because they love the story, because they love their craft, because they loved us.

14:23 Zoe You know.

14:24 Zoe in some cases.

14:25 Zoe I mean, it really was an act of love and dedication toward this project that got it to where it is right now.

14:33 Zoe and honestly like, you know, I I I can't sing Taylor's praises enough because he really was just such a huge part of this.

14:42 Zoe And I I met Taylor while he was working on a project that was called Space Beavers two.

14:47 Malachite Not one.

14:49 Zoe Two.

14:50 Adam Pretty good.

14:51 Zoe I know I was like.

14:52 Malachite Yeah.

14:53 Zoe He had found this archive of footage from the 90s and 80s of these kids who had essentially tried to make this movie about beavers in space and they had done it in the style of the original Star Wars with like miniatures, you know, flying through just darkness, right?

15:05 Zoe and like practical beaver costumes in astronaut suits.

15:10 Zoe And when I like when he told me about that idea, we had already had the.

15:15 Zoe these deer our vampire conversation.

15:17 Zoe And at that moment, I was like, this is our guy, he'd do it.

15:21 Zoe I know.

15:21 Zoe He'd do it.

15:22 Zoe but then I learned later that Taylor, when he saw my reaction to Space Beavers two, thought, okay, this chick's real.

15:30 Zoe Yeah.

15:31 Zoe Yeah, and that helped me do something like pretty cool too.

15:33 Zoe So like I think the the love of, you know, the art form but the specifically like nostalgic and, you know, these things that we've watched growing up that we'd never gotten the opportunity to do, most filmmakers don't get the opportunity to do one of the things that we pull off in this movie.

15:49 Zoe But we've managed to create this piece strictly by adapting when there were problems, solving everything that came into our path as quickly as we can.

15:58 Zoe we were able to actually bring in some really exciting elements to this piece.

16:02 Zoe That we didn't even plan to have to be given with, but now we couldn't imagine our movie without them.

16:08 Malachite Yeah, like one of the coolest elements in Bampire is that we've chosen to animate certain things, always on top of practical, so a world where you have your real life actors.

16:19 Malachite but then maybe like a feral deer jumps out of a bush and scares them and for that moment it's this animated deer and it,

16:29 Malachite wasn't originally in our concept, we thought we'd go practical, we even thought we'd go more like silly, obviously fake sort of like Monty Python esque practical.

16:37 Malachite but that's not the way it went, we were really open to adapting and trying to use all the resources we could find as well as possible.

16:45 Malachite We ended up meeting and getting connected with just an incredible makeup and practical effects artist named Trista Kelly.

16:54 Malachite And she is just a total up and comer works out of Portland, Oregon right now a ton.

17:00 Malachite But she was able to elevate a lot of our transformations into like, okay, we're really going to do this, we're going to have multiple steps where it looks like the horn's coming out a different amount and we're going to shoot it all.

17:11 Malachite And we're not just going to throw an animated horn on this head.

17:14 Malachite So we we adapted like, okay, we'll we'll animate some things due to safety and due to the fact that we don't have the budget.

17:21 Malachite And also due to that just amazing kind of Who Framed Roger Rabbit flavor that we thought.

17:27 Malachite hasn't been shown in a movie in a while and could really fit into this horror genre.

17:31 Malachite So, we we just said yes to all of that.

17:34 Malachite And I think I'm really proud of us because we didn't stay too hard to any one aspect.

17:40 Malachite We found what could shine in in any moment, what could shine the brightest is what we chose.

17:45 Malachite And it just led to this really interesting amalgamation film.

17:51 Malachite Where we have there's like a one of the characters brings a VHS and is filming stuff and so we cut to you seeing what is actually filmed through his VHS and that's all.

18:02 Malachite Like Zoe said, practically literally recorded on tape before we digitalize it.

18:06 Malachite and then we have animated sections over everything and it and then real practical stuff.

18:13 Malachite And it just it turned into something that was so so unique and almost so like specialized and diverse that it was.

18:22 Malachite I don't know that we could have set out to make it as a plan, but the fact that we were able to incorporate those elements when they when they popped out as options for us.

18:32 Malachite Just really gave us the biggest ability to achieve as as many of these things as possible.

18:40 Malachite Because we we set out, Zoe wrote us the incredible script, which really I feel is like step one and what got a lot of interest here, but we're a small group and we didn't have a lot of funding.

18:50 Malachite We didn't have a lot of you know, like we said like our initial our initial concept was, hey, we'll do it in the backyard with our best friends if we have to.

18:56 Malachite And then from there we just made all these cool little connections where where we got it to add a little bit of value, a little bit of value and before we know it, we got Greg Sestero showing up for free.

19:06 Malachite And we've we ended up putting a bunch of all of our own savings into the film.

19:12 Malachite And that's like the only budget we got.

19:15 Malachite So a very humble initial starting budget.

19:19 Malachite and then a lot of people who are willing to sign on just for potential payment and stuff like that.

19:23 Malachite So I I know I'm rambling but it it's like every step of the way it just grew a little bit, a little bit, a little bit into something that now.

19:31 Malachite has had so much love poured into it.

19:33 Malachite And it's just humbling.

19:35 Zoe and like, yeah.

19:36 Malachite Just truly amazing, like if everybody is passionate about one thing and nobody is in it just for themselves, it's incredible.

19:44 Adam Yeah.

19:44 Malachite Like like a culty sense of like, we're doing this because we love it.

19:50 Zoe All hail Vampire.

19:52 Malachite It's incredible what what you can do.

19:54 Malachite And incredible how much work people put into this film for for very little personal gain and, oh, we just want to pay him all so much.

20:02 Lee Oh.

20:03 Lee It's got to be said, you're saying, you know.

20:05 Lee It it was done on a on a a low budget and it's entirely independent and stuff, but Adam and I were discussing from the trailer, it looks incredible.

20:13 Lee Like it looks fantastic, it really does look, yeah.

20:18 Lee Head and above what I would expect in, you know.

20:22 Lee From a from a a lower budget, you know, as you say, just just pulling a team together and getting friends involved and stuff.

20:28 Lee Oh, it just looks magnificent.

20:30 Lee So, yeah.

20:31 Zoe Oh, thank you.

20:32 Malachite Yes.

20:32 Adam It really, really does, guys, it just, you know, we were.

20:36 Adam We were we were we were stunned that it because it looks it looks like a it looks like, I mean, the love is showing there and the talent is showing there, but also it looks like this had, you know, a lot of money poured into it and a lot of and, you know, the fact that you guys did that in like three weeks and stuff like that really does look terrific.

20:51 Adam You know.

20:52 Adam It's like.

20:53 Adam And like you say, it's that whole thing of you've just managed to be like sort of draw so many people into the orbit of it, all of whom are just contributing their parts or their multiple parts.

21:02 Adam Like you say, because you you're sort of you're doubling up both as an actor and the writer and it sort of, you know, there's a lot of people wearing multiple hats on it and stuff like that.

21:10 Adam But yeah, I think certainly from the footage we've seen, I mean, it looks.

21:15 Adam it you know, it looks a million dollars, you know.

21:18 Adam It's it's.

21:20 Adam really, really good.

21:21 Zoe And.

21:21 Adam Yeah, it doesn't have.

21:22 Zoe Honestly.

21:23 Adam You go.

21:24 Adam I was going to say, it doesn't it doesn't have that sort of thing sometimes where there'll be there'll be some sort of drop off on an independent film in some way or another.

21:33 Adam It might be, you know, it might be like the sound wasn't there or it might be that the effects weren't there or something like that.

38:20 Adam You know.

38:20 Adam And it's just, but yeah, overall what we've seen looks incredible.

38:24 Adam You know.

38:24 Adam It does really.

38:26 Zoe It's got.

38:26 Adam Certainly excited us for it.

38:27 Adam You know.

38:28 Adam We really we really can't wait to see this.

38:29 Zoe This project, like our our practical effects artist.

38:31 Zoe Trista Kelly said it more than once onset.

38:33 Zoe And I think it's just a beautiful way of saying it.

38:37 Zoe You can put a decapitated neck wound on somebody, you can take off their arm.

38:42 Zoe You know, and have it be fake.

38:43 Zoe You can spray blood as much as you want, but if you don't have someone underneath that prosthetic.

38:48 Zoe selling that blood spray.

38:51 Zoe If you don't have someone behind that camera.

38:54 Zoe capturing that frame to be magnificent and stunning and full of depth, it doesn't matter.

39:02 Adam Yeah.

39:03 Zoe It doesn't matter how great that effect is, it doesn't matter any piece of it could fall apart.

39:09 Zoe But none of it did for us.

39:11 Zoe And by every right it should have.

39:13 Zoe I mean, and I I don't say that lightly.

39:16 Zoe We had a hundred challenges that we overcame, one a day.

39:21 Zoe I mean, one show stopping challenge per day is what I would say this project.

39:25 Malachite One day it was bees.

39:26 Zoe Like millions of wasps.

39:28 Malachite Thousands of wasps.

39:28 Zoe Yeah.

39:29 Malachite Literally.

39:29 Zoe Like we had accidentally cooked meat over a fireplace and left, I guess, a chunk of meat in the campfire.

39:34 Zoe And the next day we show up to film.

39:37 Zoe And we're supposed to be at this set all day, we've got, you know, three weeks, right, 21 days.

39:42 Zoe One of those days is at this set.

39:45 Zoe And it's full of bees.

39:47 Zoe Million bees.

39:48 Zoe I mean, I've never seen so many bees.

39:51 Zoe And we've got two people who are allergic, our director is literally like paralyzingly terrified of bees.

39:57 Zoe And he overcame that as well as a hundred other challenges.

40:00 Zoe That only he knew about, you know.

40:03 Zoe really like the testament to this piece could be said by any one of the 28 people who were there.

40:09 Zoe Because every single one of them was a champion for this project.

40:12 Zoe Every single one of them fought a million bees, you know.

40:17 Zoe But yeah, it's definitely had its own sense of gravity, like people have been pulled.

40:22 Zoe Like you said, into the orbit of this project and until each one of those pieces came into play, there wasn't a project.

40:28 Zoe Even even for us, you know, having Taylor show up and say, I'm working on Space Beavers too, we hadn't even started writing the screenplay.

40:36 Zoe And there he was, the guy who was supposed to direct it.

40:39 Zoe And you know, it's just one of those moments where you got to listen to those signs, you know, the second that you're given that opportunity, like you better kick that door down.

40:46 Zoe Because like it might shut again in a moment if you're not careful.

40:50 Zoe And we just took advantage in every every time that we could of someone who was.

40:56 Zoe We didn't take advantage of people every chance we could.

40:59 Zoe But we took advantage of the love that people were willingly giving us.

41:03 Zoe Like they were really just excited.

41:05 Zoe And essentially said, hey, if you don't if if it means that we get to make Bampire, don't pay me till we can make some money off Bampire.

41:10 Zoe Then pay me with that.

41:11 Zoe I'll take some of that money.

41:13 Zoe But if it means that we get to make this movie right now, with these people, then yeah, I'm in, sign me up.

41:21 Zoe That was their everyone's energy from the get-go, no matter how much we offered to pay them.

41:25 Zoe They were had this attitude of, no, please, put it toward the movie.

41:31 Lee Incredible.

41:32 Lee That's incredible.

41:33 Lee And and that's just the beauty of of indie filmmaking, you know, from what I've seen is that it is a project of love for for everyone involved.

41:41 Lee because it does always seem a bit of a house of cards, as you say, every day you turn up and you're like, right, what's going to go wrong today, what is going to threaten the entire project this time next week.

41:52 Lee And it's and it it must be a matter of troubleshooting all the time.

41:56 Lee But if you've got a core group and you're all you're all as dedicated as one another.

42:01 Lee And as you say, you haven't got anyone who's just showing up for a paycheck or whatever, then is amazing what you can you can get through.

42:07 Malachite Yeah.

42:08 Malachite It takes that much love and if any single person is willing to say.

42:10 Malachite Oh, that's okay, let's move on.

42:12 Malachite And and just treat it like that casually or without that much perfectionism, it's going to show.

42:19 Malachite And so yeah, putting together, I mean, it's.

42:23 Malachite yeah, none of it happens on on accident, like we took this huge leap, but we've been making short films in the same community for five to 10 years, you know.

42:32 Malachite And just just meeting people and seeing everyone's skill set and how to.

42:38 Malachite empower each other, I mean, I think that's that's the keyword to focus on if you want a group of people who are all passionate and encouraged.

42:44 Malachite and and willing to speak up, you need a group of people who all feel empowered and feel like.

42:50 Malachite we're making something great and I can make it a little better and there's not a sense of ego, if I have an idea that can make it better, people are going to love me for that.

43:02 Malachite No one's going to feel mad at me for taking the spotlight or or any of that.

43:05 Malachite It's that that sense of like empowerment and just appreciation is.

43:14 Malachite in the workplace in general, that that gets lost really quick sometimes.

43:20 Adam Absolutely, yeah.

43:21 Malachite But if you're able to, if you pour the love back into the people who are working and and giving themselves to to your project.

43:28 Malachite It's definitely will pay off.

43:31 Malachite that's one thing that we learned for sure.

43:32 Malachite It's like we everybody, everybody on set of like probably 30 people all became best friends.

43:41 Malachite And and just just like at the end we all held hands.

43:45 Malachite And talked we said stories and we sang a little Kumbaya.

43:48 Malachite And you know.

43:52 Malachite It was the most hippie thing I've ever participated in.

43:53 Malachite And we're from Eugene, Oregon, which is like it's hippie Central over here.

43:57 Malachite So.

43:58 Malachite Everywhere.

43:59 Malachite Fliers in the hair.

44:00 Malachite So.

44:01 Malachite But that passion, that love, and that empowerment where everyone is like, no, I'm going to make the lighting a little bit better.

44:09 Malachite Even though I might not be getting a lighting credit or like you do it every way you can.

44:14 Malachite You do it by saying, hey, I'll give you a lighting credit.

44:17 Malachite You know, you'll do it by just thanking them every time you see their face in the morning.

44:22 Malachite

44:24 Malachite But that also we took such a leap on this and another one of the takeaways is.

44:30 Malachite Don't make a film in three weeks.

44:32 Malachite It's so we got so lucky.

44:34 Zoe It was a miracle.

44:35 Malachite We got so lucky.

44:36 Zoe There are only so many times that I would use that word.

44:40 Zoe But this project was miraculous.

44:42 Zoe And I know that we've talked about 18 different elements that we've got involved in the film and how excited we are about every single one of them, but that's what no sacrifices looks like, that's taking a piece that by every right, we should not have been able to make at this budget level and we didn't miss a scene.

45:00 Zoe We have stunts taking place in moving vehicles in the original screenplay, well, now we we have more intense stunts taking place in a moving vehicle, but it's cartoon.

45:12 Zoe So no one's getting hurt.

45:13 Zoe You know.

45:14 Zoe It's like, there's no way we were going to have someone hanging half out of a window being pulled on a trailer with eight people strapped to the hood of the car, all with gear strapped onto them.

45:24 Zoe Heck, no.

45:25 Zoe We're like, we're not there.

45:26 Zoe We're doing this, like we said, with people that we love, no way are we going to risk them in that way.

45:32 Zoe No way.

45:32 Zoe That's where the conversation stopped when it came to our practical stunts because it was never going to be worth risking hurting somebody.

45:39 Zoe So everything that we've done was not just for the love of the piece, although the story was our top priority.

45:46 Zoe For the love of the people, it was taking our human resource that we had, treating them as respectfully as possible.

45:51 Zoe And if they were saying, hey, there we can't do this, you know, there's no way we can do this amount in this much time.

45:57 Zoe Okay.

45:58 Zoe We're not going to do that amount then.

45:59 Zoe We're going to do this much in this much time and everything that we execute, we're going to execute perfectly.

46:05 Zoe Everything else, we will figure out a way to do it, but it might not be the way that we set out to do it.

46:11 Zoe And like that level of adaptation had to come from every member of our team.

46:16 Zoe Every member.

46:17 Lee It is something we say a lot in independent film, Adam and I have discussed it.

46:20 Lee Adam on the show, how when you've got an indie film and you can see for budgetary restraints or whatever.

46:27 Lee You have to adapt and change and sometimes those things can end up being the key things that you love the most.

46:33 Lee Like you say with the idea of bringing in the animation.

46:36 Lee Okay, we can't actually do this.

46:39 Lee Let's animate it, let's do that.

46:41 Lee And and it ends up going from what could be a negative of I can't really afford it, it's going to look chunky or it's not going to.

46:49 Lee And all of a sudden you you elevate it by thinking around the corner and coming up with a whole new way of doing it.

46:54 Lee And all of a sudden it's it's an extra spark.

46:56 Lee And it goes in the plus column.

46:57 Adam It it suddenly becomes someone's favourite part of the film and it's something that is an adaptation of due to time, budget, you know, capability or whatever like that.

47:05 Adam And also it's just great to hear that level like you say about being responsible to everyone because that's why everyone wants to show up.

47:15 Adam Because quite frankly, there are, as we've seen recently, there's a lot of bigger budget movies that aren't doing that, you know, there's there's a lot of heartache out there about how people.

47:23 Adam you know, treated on set and how you know, things things corners are cut and things like that and it's just, you know, at the end of the day, like you say, you're making a film.

47:36 Adam You know, if you if you're if you know, if.

47:39 Adam I don't know, it's not not like heart surgery or bomb disposal or something, you know.

47:44 Adam You know, it's like, we're making a film, we're not going to, you know.

47:48 Zoe We're not going to.

47:49 Adam We're not going to hurt someone or get someone, you know, injured in in for the sake of a film.

47:54 Adam You know.

47:55 Adam It's but again, it makes it it brings everyone together, but also it just means that you.

48:04 Adam find these ways around that quite often are just so much, you know, they become the parts that people remember.

48:13 Adam They become the parts that people go, that was unique, I haven't seen that before.

48:17 Adam And, you know, it's a real sort of it can become a selling point.

48:21 Adam You know.

48:22 Adam It's it's just great.

48:24 Adam You know, it's a fantastic.

48:26 Adam scenario and and like you say, it's having to be adaptive, it's having to bend with how things go.

48:30 Malachite You know, I think at least as an artist, I feel really passionately that acceptance is like a.

48:37 Malachite that is the key source of like growth and beauty and ownership of who you are.

48:42 Malachite And love for things.

48:43 Malachite So just that sense of like, yes, we will show those vulnerabilities in a way that.

48:49 Malachite we love and other people will be able to love them too.

48:54 Malachite Instead of maybe covering up those parts and hoping people don't notice, that's I think that's the opposite of acceptance.

49:00 Malachite And so in these moments where we said like, yes, we can't afford to.

49:03 Malachite We we accept that we're not going to have an actor ripped out of a truck while it's moving, but if we animate it, we can have him ripped in half and his legs can stay in the bottom of the truck.

49:15 Malachite It's such a weird way to say it, like acceptance can be usually turned towards the self in such a beautiful way.

49:23 Malachite But when you turn it towards the film or towards your art, too, it just allows unique things to shine.

49:30 Malachite And that's.

49:31 Malachite beautiful.

49:32 Zoe Absolutely.

49:33 Malachite And so I think historically and culturally sometimes we snuff out the unique things or we try to cover them up because they're risky.

49:41 Malachite we might be judged for them.

49:43 Malachite But yeah, let let the uniqueness shine, it's it's it's worth it.

49:48 Malachite And you wouldn't you wouldn't get a film like Bampire if you didn't just have that that attitude of like that sort of yes and.

49:55 Malachite Or that like, oh, it hasn't been done before, but I could see it working, I could find love for it, even if I don't know, who cares if anyone else does.

50:01 Malachite But

50:02 Zoe Absolutely.

50:03 Malachite Gosh, I do I want to say like we had this almost like miracle level of success in this thing that we set out to do.

50:12 Malachite And and kept saying yes to, but one of the things we had to say yes to was.

50:16 Malachite let's try to shoot this in in two and a half weeks because our budget isn't there.

50:21 Malachite And we flew like four or five out of state actors in during those weeks.

50:26 Malachite It was an intensive, very high stress two to three weeks, like often times 16 plus hour day.

50:33 Malachite I mean like often times like 16 hours on set and then for us as producers and me as an actor producer, that's on set for 16 hours, come home.

50:41 Malachite Prep for tomorrow, try to put a social media post out, and then you then you get to like eating and sleeping maybe for four hours before you're back.

50:46 Malachite And no joke, that was our that was our schedule for two and a half weeks and

50:54 Malachite that was the only that was what it took to to put everything we could, all of the money we could into the film.

51:00 Malachite And not have to worry about different segments or, you know, all of that, it was what was needed, but.

51:11 Zoe Man.

51:12 Malachite It's the next film, hopefully we don't have to say yes to something so extreme.

51:17 Lee I was just about to say.

51:18 Lee I'm going to say you guys have to need some downtime.

51:20 Lee But equally, I can still.

51:21 Lee I can see that you're both still buzzing from the from the production.

51:24 Malachite Oh my gosh.

51:25 Lee So.

51:26 Lee Are you already thinking of new thoughts?

51:28 Lee And writing some ideas down and possibly.

51:31 Malachite I've been thinking Bampire two, Bampire two.

51:34 Malachite There's so much love for Bampire and there's so many open-ended story elements, especially if you think like in in the prequel sense and the after the math.

51:40 Malachite after math of Bampire sense.

51:43 Malachite So I've been thinking a lot about what kind of stuff we can come up with to build off of Bampire specifically.

51:47 Malachite Zoe is just a prolific writer in general, she this is her first.

51:52 Malachite feature that she's written and that will be produced.

51:55 Malachite But she's got a whole you know, bag full of other features and they're all just really unique.

52:01 Malachite And so I she's been putting a lot of work into that.

52:04 Malachite But right now, the real truth is all we can really focus on is is Bampire still.

52:10 Malachite It's been trying to build a marketing campaign and find.

52:16 Malachite we're not as much as we sound like we're finished it and we're so excited that it went well.

52:22 Malachite We have so much work.

52:24 Zoe We have a lot of work.

52:25 Zoe Yeah, it's like post-production.

52:26 Zoe is 50% of a project.

52:29 Zoe So we've done 50%.

52:30 Zoe We still have about half to go in terms of taking all of that.

52:33 Zoe And combining it into an amazing film.

52:35 Zoe Putting in the animation, putting in the music, you know, finishing our fundraaising like we're going to run this Indiegogo campaign for.

52:39 Zoe

52:40 Zoe Absolutely.

52:41 Zoe But one thing that I really want to make clear is that we're doing this because we believe in independent film.

52:48 Zoe I completely see the value in major studios, who wouldn't.

52:51 Zoe Right, it's kind of you can't ignore the value of working with a major studio.

52:54 Zoe and I also see the value in working with a union, you know, and and figuring out how to make that something that really does benefit your career.

53:00 Zoe But there are a lot, a lot of talented artists out there who can apply for a union and not get into it.

53:05 Zoe And who can wish to work with a major studio, but may never even get the opportunity.

53:11 Zoe And what other avenue is there for those million.

53:14 Zoe I mean, I'm talking like a large handful of artists, who those are just not pathways toward success.

53:22 Zoe This is that pathway for so many artists out there.

53:25 Zoe This is the way that they can hope to make their dream come true is through independent filmmaking.

53:29 Zoe through uncensored filmmaking.

53:31 Zoe And as a writer who specializes, if you will, in uncensored film writing.

53:36 Zoe I personally believe it's it's one of the only ways to keep the art out there pure.

53:42 Zoe I and by that, I mean something that's coming from the heart, not coming out of a wallet and back into a wallet.

53:46 Zoe Not that.

53:47 Zoe Something better than that, something that people choose to do because they love it, because they believe in it, because they think it's going to be impactful artwork.

53:54 Zoe I mean, and that's something I don't see coming out of a lot of these other pathways.

53:58 Zoe does it happen?

53:59 Zoe Sure.

54:00 Zoe But what I love to see 800 times more, yeah, like of course, who wouldn't.

54:05 Zoe It's good art.

54:07 Zoe So if this is the way that I get to make my artwork and if I get to make it with these people, then this is the path that I would choose.

54:13 Zoe Again and again, no matter that dollar sign and even though we say, yeah, I hope we don't have to do that again.

54:17 Zoe It's like what I do know beyond a shadow of a doubt is that no matter how well Bampire does, we're going to be back out there making another movie.

54:22 Zoe So.

54:24 Zoe You know, Path films and Pop Motion Productions is not done yet.

54:27 Malachite It's the best experience of my life personally, because it brought a community together.

54:31 Malachite Where we all were so passionate and so supportive of each other and there's just that's.

54:35 Malachite I think just the peak of human experience is is being.

54:41 Malachite so lucky to be appreciated and useful to like like 20 people.

54:49 Malachite I'm such like a hermit.

54:51 Malachite I'm used to like only talking to my friends and my family.

54:53 Malachite But 20 people all said thank you to me, it was like, I know.

54:59 Zoe I had someone say, they've never been hugged this much on a film set.

55:03 Zoe And I just I just love that.

55:04 Zoe You know.

55:05 Zoe Not to just resonate.

55:06 Zoe On what people have said, but the man who built our cave, Michael Rucker, he said something that was really passionate and subtle in his way that he is.

55:15 Zoe

55:15 Zoe where he said, you know, if if people kept doing what we're doing out here.

55:20 Zoe And if this project goes as well as I think it could.

55:22 Zoe Then we could really turn the tides.

55:24 Zoe And coming from someone like him, that's incredibly meaningful and I think it's really true for the industry nowadays.

55:31 Zoe We need good examples.

55:33 Zoe You know, we can't have indie films out there hurting people, underpaying people.

55:38 Zoe And then ultimately not turning out a good product.

55:41 Zoe That's just not it's not worth it.

55:42 Zoe You might have to choose, like I said, not paying people to make it like work because then they're all showing up just for the love of it.

55:48 Zoe That's not ideal.

55:49 Zoe But at least it made a piece of artwork that no one's getting hurt for, that is going to be good.

55:54 Zoe And ultimately, the people will get paid for.

55:57 Zoe So it's it's one of those things where you just don't get a lot of good examples in independent filmmaking right now.

56:02 Zoe We've both been subjected to some pretty crazy stuff on the film sets that we were on before Bampire.

56:09 Zoe And it was a really big part of our experience to make sure that everyone on set was safe to be around.

56:15 Zoe That everyone felt like they could ask for things and were comfortable.

56:18 Zoe I mean, these were the most important objectives going in, even despite knowing.

56:23 Zoe what we were going to do is absolutely insane.

56:26 Zoe It really did it really did take precedence for us though to keep people safe.

56:31 Zoe You know, and to keep them feeling respected.

56:33 Zoe And I think that is why it went as well as it did.

56:37 Zoe Bottom line, is because we went into it.

56:38 Zoe Caring about the human element, which is something that's missing from.

56:41 Zoe those two pathways for sure, but independent film as a freaking third.

56:44 Zoe You know.

56:45 Zoe You need some folks to come in and say, this is what it could be.

56:48 Adam Absolutely.

56:50 Adam And I think also.

56:51 Adam You've got that it's it's like you say, it's about bringing an artistic vision with no one interfering where the interference is the restrictions of budget, the restrictions of what, you know, who you've got in your team or whatever like that.

57:06 Adam But it's not the restrictions of, oh, can you not do that because that doesn't play well, or can you not do that because we're not those films, we don't do them, you know, we're not we're we don't look, no one watches cows in Space Foams this year.

57:18 Adam You know.

57:19 Adam or whatever.

57:19 Adam And it's sort of, you know, it's it's remaining true to that vision in the sense of you do with it what you can.

57:24 Adam But it's not a team of people telling you, don't do this, don't do that, this is not the way it's done.

57:30 Adam And indeed, you know, sort of like, or if you cut that corner, we can get this done quicker, but, you know, you then end up with someone who doesn't want to work with you ever again.

57:41 Adam Because.

57:41 Adam something went wrong or something wasn't, you know, someone wasn't treated correctly or whatever like that.

57:47 Adam You know, there's something to be said for having that sort of thing.

57:49 Adam Of having like a rep company where you can you sit see it where it's like, you know, there are directors and who have a group of people who are happy to always go back and work with them.

57:57 Adam Because you know they've had a good experience and you know, it's not just.

58:00 Adam Oh, we did that film and it was successful, it's clearly because, oh, actually, I had a good time whilst doing this.

58:05 Adam You know.

58:06 Zoe I've gotten messages from every single one of our cast members at this point just saying, I can't wait till we're back on set together making Bampire two.

58:12 Zoe And.

58:12 Malachite I'm like.

58:12 Zoe I'm like.

58:13 Malachite I'm like, please.

58:13 Zoe Let me get off Bampire one.

58:14 Malachite

58:14 Zoe

58:15 Malachite This guy.

58:15 Zoe Always.

58:16 Zoe planning over here.

58:18 Zoe But it's it's it's true.

58:20 Zoe I mean to have 28 people tell you that this was one of the best experiences they've had in their life, it's it's humbling.

58:26 Malachite It's meaningful and it's and it's not something that happens on accident.

58:28 Malachite From the very beginning, I mean, we we made we made our company Path Films last year and with the goal of.

58:36 Malachite we want to bring paid work to Eugene, Oregon because we think that paid work is kind of the only way to elevate the quality to the point where we think these indie projects could start becoming profitable and just continue to build a community around that.

58:49 Malachite So we want to bring paid work.

58:50 Malachite But all but all that means nothing if people don't want to work with us twice.

58:52 Malachite And that that's the real essence of what we are about.

58:54 Malachite Just as a company even.

58:55 Malachite We think it's the best way to be as a company to have that legitimate sort of upstanding, honest, generous attitude toward the people we work with.

59:06 Malachite Because if we're good business people, we can still make money, we can calculate, we can be generous and yet still calculate right, still make the amount of profits needed to make another film.

59:15 Malachite And everybody will be all the more excited.

59:16 Malachite While they're working, if they're being valued properly and they'll be all excited to come back again next time too, and so somehow even with like a shoe string budget and with.

59:25 Malachite most of the people to this day still not having been paid, we we captured just that essence and I think it's because it's it's not on accident.

59:34 Malachite It's because we set out saying, this is this is our goal.

59:38 Malachite We've seen a lot of independent sort of like amateur films get made and a lot of the time, it's just one person's idea, one person has enough respect to bring a group of people together around their one idea.

59:51 Malachite But a lot of times it it can become sort of hostile and and not turn out.

59:57 Malachite into a positive experience and it we just really wanted to find a way to do it in a grounded, holistic way.

1:00:05 Malachite That we could, even if Bampire isn't what our dreams were for it, people would want to work with us again.

1:00:13 Malachite And then if if what we really see as our vision for Bampire happens, I mean all of a sudden it's a it's a real world changer for

1:00:24 Zoe Everyone.

1:00:24 Malachite involved.

1:00:25 Malachite And just everyone and for our whole community.

1:00:26 Malachite I mean, nothing like this has been made in Eugene for a very long time.

1:00:30 Malachite The film Animal House was made here.

1:00:32 Lee Oh, really?

1:00:33 Malachite

1:00:33 Lee Oh, wow.

1:00:34 Zoe Our claim to fame.

1:00:35 Malachite And since then there's been nothing in Eugene and we're it's like a two, three hour flight to LA from here.

1:00:41 Malachite It's like we're not that far from a lot of talented people.

1:00:46 Malachite I mean, the people in our community for sure, but the people just up two hours drive north in Portland, Oregon.

1:00:52 Malachite There're that's a pretty big hub and Seattle is up further from that.

1:00:55 Malachite Lots of people on the Pacific Northwest that are good at making film.

1:00:59 Malachite And so.

1:01:01 Malachite Yeah, we just we just wanted to build that that little section where you know.

1:01:06 Malachite we care enough to get a good product and we care enough to also treat people right.

1:01:10 Zoe No matter what.

1:01:11 Zoe As the first priority.

1:01:13 Zoe And that that will like I think it's a key part of our belief that that will turn out a good product.

1:01:18 Lee Yeah.

1:01:18 Malachite I mean my hope, my hope with Indiegogo is that back you know.

1:01:22 Malachite Back in the day it was always you'd have these films that maybe funded by a very eccentric millionaire.

1:01:26 Malachite Well now maybe you can be funded by a thousand very eccentric people with a normal wage.

1:01:30 Malachite As long as you've got enough like-minded eccentric people, you know, it can come together.

1:01:33 Malachite You know.

1:01:34 Malachite I love it and I love being able to interact as a fan and a viewer of the art form.

1:01:38 Malachite I love being able to sort of push the wave in whatever direction you're interested in.

1:01:43 Malachite and I think that that is just another opportunity for that too.

1:01:48 Malachite Like if films are funded partly by interested audience, it's it takes away a lot of the guess work and the overly carefulness of trying to make a film people will like.

1:01:56 Malachite Because they're saying directly, yes, we want this, yes, we want it super gory.

1:02:00 Malachite It doesn't have to be like some crazy intricate like current fitting into the current story this year.

1:02:06 Malachite Or anything like that.

1:02:07 Malachite It's like.

1:02:08 Malachite we want a bloody awesome, exciting horror film.

1:02:11 Zoe We'll pay for it.

1:02:12 Malachite Yeah.

1:02:13 Zoe Yeah.

1:02:13 Zoe And the way like with Indiegogo as a platform.

1:02:15 Zoe It is really nice because we can offer perks for people who do decide to back us at this super early, you know, level of us trying to get this movie out there.

1:02:23 Zoe One of the ways that we can thank you guys for supporting us via this platform is by offering up a pre-release digital download of the movie.

1:02:29 Zoe So there will be like a digital showroom where if you go on, you donate, I think it's $29, you'll be sent a link and you can actually watch Bampire before it ever comes out to the general public.

1:02:37 Zoe So that's one way that you can, you know, benefit.

1:02:38 Zoe Is you actually get to see our movie before everyone else?

1:02:39 Zoe Because.

1:02:40 Zoe you helped us make it, you know, that's the idea.

1:02:42 Zoe And our merchandise that we can also sell via Indiegogo.

1:02:45 Zoe Sell more more giveaway at this point.

1:02:47 Zoe it's all limited edition right now.

1:02:50 Zoe So that means, you know, it could be worth a lot of money someday to say, hey, I was in at the ground level of this thing, let us give you something that's unique to being at that ground level of this production.

1:02:57 Zoe because that that's really the cool part about this as well.

1:03:01 Zoe Is that it's not just us coming and saying, please give us everything you have.

1:03:04 Zoe It's let us give you something in return, let us show you that what you just donated your money to was really, really worth it.

1:03:12 Zoe And we can prove that by like actually showing you the product, and so our Indiegogo campaign is like really based on thank yous.

1:03:19 Zoe You know.

1:03:19 Zoe It's based on thank you for being our sponsors.

1:03:22 Zoe That's why we've selected the gifts that we have, that's why we're trying to show you guys the movie as one of our biggest like opportunities for being a part of the campaign at this level.

1:03:32 Zoe We want to give you guys that feeling of, I really did, you know, I started this.

1:03:38 Zoe I'm now getting to see it at the ground level of where it's at and that's because I put in that $20.

1:03:42 Zoe 30, you know.

1:03:43 Zoe to make it happen for these people.

1:03:44 Zoe So that really is the level that we're still at right now.

1:03:46 Zoe But I really believe that this product is going to be exciting enough that everybody should go get that link.

1:03:52 Lee There you go.

1:03:52 Lee You heard.

1:03:53 Lee You heard them there, they're excited.

1:03:55 Lee We're excited, go and get involved.

1:03:58 Lee The more money you give, the faster you'll get to see this film, I mean, I don't know what more incentives you could possibly need than that.

1:04:05 Lee But there it is.

1:04:07 Lee Right, thank you very much, guys, for your time.

1:04:08 Lee This evening.

1:04:09 Lee It's been wonderful, it's been lovely to speak to you.

1:04:12 Lee fingers crossed, we get to speak to you again soon.

1:04:14 Lee We get things going.

1:04:16 Lee yeah, obviously keep us updated.

1:04:18 Lee And, yeah, we can't wait to see it.

1:04:21 Malachite Awesome.

1:04:21 Malachite Yeah.

1:04:22 Malachite We'll be in touch and you guys mean the world to us just thanks for this opportunity, it's been really truly fun.

1:04:29 Adam Thank you for reaching out to us because we we're excited.

1:04:34 Malachite Yes.

1:04:34 Lee Let's go.

1:04:36 Lee Excellent, right, thanks very much, everybody.

1:04:37 Lee Take care, goodnight.

1:04:39 Adam Goodnight.

1:04:40 Zoe Thank you.