House

0:23 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.

0:26 Chris I'm Chris.

0:27 Adam I'm Adam.

0:29 Lee Hey! And we are here for the second part of our Haunted House month where we are covering 1985's House.

0:39 Lee Also, I have a suspicion that I'm not the only one who hasn't only watched the original film, is that right Adam from your message in the group?

0:46 Adam Yes, I.

0:47 Lee Excellent.

0:48 Adam I bought the rather brilliant Blu-ray set off of Arrow years and years ago.

0:55 Adam And this has been my excuse to actually finally sit down and watch the sequels because I've only ever I'd only seen House previously.

1:04 Lee Yes, so we'll be covering House, I watched House 2 and House 4.

1:09 Lee So we'll be doing what I also like to think of as Cheers, the horror years.

1:14 Chris Yes.

1:14 Lee I'm so sorry.

1:16 Lee But we'll get to that in due course.

1:18 Adam They could have got Ted Danson or Carla in.

1:22 Lee Oh, that would have been so good.

1:23 Adam Three and four. They should have done.

1:26 Lee So, before we get carried away ourselves, let's ask for the first opinion of the first movie before we get carried away with the sequels.

1:32 Lee Chris, what did you make of House?

1:35 Chris Yeah, well, so I do need to mention the sequels because I don't think we might have covered this, you know, briefly before.

1:43 Chris But I knew I'd seen House 3 and I was pretty young.

1:46 Chris And it was one of those that we watched during a friend's birthday party.

1:50 Chris There was maybe, you know, nine of us, something like that.

1:53 Chris But we were pretty young.

1:57 Chris I kind of think around 11, which seems weird now.

2:03 Chris But that might just be the changing times.

2:06 Chris But so I knew that and I remembered the bit I remembered from House 3 was turn up the voltage.

2:12 Adam Oh, yes.

2:13 Chris Yeah because that yeah.

2:16 Adam House 3, which is they kind of tried to do a serious film.

2:23 Chris Yes, right, so that's that's what I was going to get onto.

2:25 Chris So in my head, this is this is my memory of it, it's that scene which is quite a powerful scene, and when you're pretty young and you haven't seen something like that before.

2:34 Chris It's it's like I was like, what surely he's meant to die anyway and he's just not dying and you know.

2:40 Chris It's like it's and then it really goes over the top.

2:41 Chris But it's quite scary.

2:44 Chris And so so I was expecting that watching House 1 thinking it's going to be similar sort of level.

2:52 Chris And and of course it's not, it is a comedy.

2:56 Adam Yes.

2:56 Chris I would say predominantly it's a comedy.

2:59 Lee I forget that every time. I don't watch the film very often, it's probably the third or fourth time I've seen it.

3:05 Lee And every time, yeah, I sit down for a bulls to the wall horror movie and then go, oh yeah, no, it's not, this is ridiculous.

3:13 Chris Yeah, really quite lighthearted throughout.

3:17 Lee Well, I think it's the we can't, you know, miss the fact that it is one of the most iconic covers of the 1980s.

3:22 Lee Like what a fantastic cover to a movie.

3:28 Adam Absolutely, that that hand.

3:32 Chris Yeah, like the skeleton hand pressing the doorbell.

3:39 Chris

3:40 Adam That is the reason that I I knew House is because you'd go in the video shop and that was like for some reason that was just one of the posters that or the covers that really stood out.

3:53 Adam And again, doesn't give too much away.

3:58 Adam Insomuch as you just assume from I always assumed from that cover that House was a serious film until I saw it.

4:04 Chris Absolutely, yeah.

4:06 Adam 10, 15 years ago, whatever it was.

4:10 Adam And and was very pleasantly surprised by how fucking bizarre it is.

4:16 Adam And funny.

4:17 Chris So so I was going to say it it kind of reminds me of Evil Dead.

4:21 Chris Probably the most out of anything else we've watched.

4:26 Chris And.

4:27 Adam Yeah, because would would this I'm trying to place it in my head, would this have this would have been after Evil Dead 2?

4:32 Adam I think, wouldn't it?

4:34 Chris okay.

4:36 Lee I am checking.

4:37 Chris I was going to check that.

4:38 Chris I was going to check that with our.

4:40 Adam Because this was in 85, actually released in 86, but it's an 85 it was made.

4:44 Lee Oh Evil Dead 2 is 87.

4:48 Adam there we go, so yeah, it does precede that.

4:51 Adam But it's definitely that and you've got stuff like Brain Dead and things, it's that sort of it's basically, I suppose it's the logical extension of cartoons.

5:06 Adam That you get, you know, if you live action, cartoon, there's going to be blood and bits getting lopped off and stuff like that.

5:16 Adam That obviously doesn't happen to Bugs or Daffy, you know, they just miraculously regrow.

5:22 Adam But if you much in the same way as Rick Mayo and Ade Edmonson's Bottom is a Looney Tunes cartoon.

5:32 Chris Yeah.

5:33 Adam So much as there's yeah, there's a lot of but this is just such a.

5:39 Adam I mean, and genuinely good effects.

5:41 Adam There's no.

5:43 Chris They are, they're definitely decent enough for the style they're going for, it all works.

5:47 Adam Yeah.

5:48 Lee The zombie soldier at the end looks absolutely phenomenal, even on like high def, it's still looks brilliant after all these years.

5:56 Lee Which is why I find it a bit tonally strange, so in my mind, that's what I always remember is him.

6:02 Chris Yeah, the look of him.

6:04 Lee And then of course the point when the wife comes in and she's just like big blue bloated weird thing that any copper and it's like, and I'm just like.

6:12 Chris And then she's shooting him with a shotgun.

6:15 Adam And giggling.

6:16 Adam And then the dog runs off with her severed hand.

6:19 Chris Yeah.

6:20 Adam And.

6:21 Chris Oh and then and then we get after that we get to the worst scene of the entire film for nowadays viewing, which is the man taking the little boy to the toilet, which is kind of a weird thing to have now.

6:31 Chris It's like, oh, he's just met just met you.

6:33 Chris Like, you know, and you're just going to drop your boy off.

6:36 Adam Yeah.

6:36 Adam It's the weirdest fucking sequence in it just because you were like, you know, fortunately, he's fine.

6:45 Chris Yeah, yeah.

6:46 Adam But, you know, if you report if you told someone that's what what you'd done before you came out.

6:52 Adam I was having trouble having a babysitter, so this bloke who'd flirted with me once, I've I've dropped the kid off at his.

6:59 Adam But it's all right, he offered him to have a person and took him for a bath.

7:01 Lee Yeah, that's what.

7:01 Lee Like.

7:02 Lee I'm not a parent, so I don't know, but I think that would be weird if I put some, said to someone, can you just look after my kid for a couple of hours and less they'd had an accident and they went, oh yeah, they had a lovely time in the bath.

7:11 Lee It's like, why are you taking him, put him in the bath?

7:14 Lee That's not right, I'd like you on a record?

7:16 Lee What's going on?

7:17 Adam It's very it's very much of a much in the same way as the amount of 80s things where you're like, oh no, what we're actually demonstrating here is that being a borderline sex offender is what gets you the girl.

7:30 Chris Yeah.

7:31 Adam Much in the same way that how things have sort of altered that at this point there was nothing there would have been nothing sinister about the idea of just leaving your kid with the neighbour.

7:42 Chris No.

7:43 Lee No.

7:44 Adam But yeah.

7:45 Lee That's not what he's going to get arrested for, he's going to get arrested by the fashion police for that jumper with the V-neck that comes halfway down to his navel, what the fuck was that all about?

7:55 Lee I mean, I know it's the 80s but shit.

7:57 Chris Yeah.

7:58 Adam I think that might be the that might be the early onset of medallion.

8:03 Lee

8:04 Adam In in so much as I can't remember it was might have been someone bloody awful to be honest, might have been like Johnny Rotten or something like that.

8:11 Adam But said that if you notice that sort of V on a man's chest is the one place they don't gain weight.

8:20 Lee Yeah.

8:21 Adam So you you sort of you you expose that area to show that you're still manly even if you've got, you know, huge boobs and of course he had one.

8:29 Adam But that's the area that's exposed because it still looks like, hey, look, I've got I'm pretty live and.

8:36 Lee I can see that.

8:37 Lee I can see that, I might have started busting that look out myself actually.

8:42 Adam Yeah.

8:43 Lee When the weather turned.

8:45 Lee

8:46 Lee Yeah, so this is such a fun movie and the music well, like gives it that really.

8:51 Chris It is.

8:51 Lee Like you're saying, sort of almost.

8:53 Chris Yeah, definitely.

8:54 Chris It is.

8:56 Chris Yeah that that does move it along the sound effects are good.

9:01 Adam And then you got and you've got George Went in there, which is another immediate indication that you are watching.

9:07 Chris George he must he must be the neighbor then.

9:09 Adam Yeah, the guy who's normally Cheers.

9:11 Chris Harold.

9:12 Adam Yes.

9:13 Chris Yeah, okay.

9:14 Adam But he yeah, so he was he is one of I think only him, Ted Danson and Rhea Perlman are the only people who've been in every who were in every episode of Cheers.

9:27 Chris

9:28 Adam But yeah, so by that point he was already well known in a very successful comedy show.

9:37 Adam So.

9:39 Chris But and he did bring comedic lines to it, what was one of them? Cujo the Racoon.

9:45 Lee Yeah.

9:46 Adam It's it's the opening bit where he's bitching about the arm.

9:49 Chris Oh.

9:50 Lee Yeah, yeah, yeah.

9:50 Adam And she was my aunt, yeah, heart of gold though.

9:54 Chris Yeah.

9:54 Adam Curiously attractive for her age, you know.

9:59 Lee I want to know how long she was in that loft.

10:01 Lee Because when he when somebody when that kid walked in and found her at the beginning, she turned green, but she was still swinging.

10:07 Lee And I was like, how high did she jump from that she's still swinging days later once her skin's gone off?

10:13 Adam She's a very drunk.

10:15 Chris She might have been green already.

10:16 Lee This is this is a possibility.

10:18 Chris Quite attractive still.

10:20 Adam Oh, for her age.

10:23 Lee That house is stunning.

10:24 Lee Again, it's another one of those where I just spent the whole time thinking, oh, I wish my house.

10:28 Chris I want that house, yeah.

10:30 Lee Yeah, it's fantastic.

10:32 Adam And I I don't care that there's Vietnam in the cupboard.

10:34 Lee Yeah.

10:35 Adam I I will put up with that for this house.

10:37 Lee Yeah, I I will just nail that covered shut and never have to worry about.

10:41 Lee This is the problem.

10:42 Lee He does poke the bear, apart from seeing his, you know, seeing his aunt hang herself vaguely.

10:48 Lee Like if he just left that cupboard shot, but he just keeps going and dicking with it for no reason whatsoever.

10:55 Adam It's.

10:56 Adam But also, I tell you what, one of my the that's the thing.

11:02 Adam I think the first time I watched House, the thing that absolutely sold me on it as a movie was the and again, it's just a lovely bit of comedy is he sees his aunt's like a hanging spirit.

11:19 Adam And then it just cuts to outside the house, I'm switching all the fucking lights on.

11:22 Lee Yeah, yeah.

11:24 Adam Because there is no way I'm standing there is no dark rooms in this house after I've seen that.

11:28 Adam No, I'm.

11:29 Lee Yeah.

11:30 Adam And it's just it's again it's one of those things where maybe not to maybe not to a total extent, but there are there's a lot of realistic reactions.

11:41 Lee

11:42 Adam To events and the things.

11:45 Adam Like you would you would want to film that.

11:48 Chris Yeah.

11:49 Adam You know, if anything just as proof that I'm not going off my fucking jump.

11:53 Lee Yeah.

11:54 Adam You know, there's weird beasties in the cupboard, so.

11:58 Chris I did I did quite like it when he twisted it around on Harold and said it's now a raccoon because it's like then it sort of flips instead of him being crazy.

12:06 Chris It's like Harold going, yeah, like definitely want to be involved in trying to chase this big raccoon, whereas before that he's like obviously you'd been mad.

12:12 Adam Yeah.

12:13 Lee And to be fair, I I watched it this time back, I was like, that's a crazy idea, so he nearly gets shot with that harpoon that very afternoon or the day before.

12:20 Lee He then invites his neighbor over at midnight who turns up with a six-pack, so you know he's drunk at least the six-pack before he turns up.

12:28 Lee And the second he walks through the door, you give him a loaded harpoon gun.

12:31 Lee I was like, you are asking to get shot in the face, like.

12:35 Chris He's he's looking for for writing material, isn't he, really?

12:39 Lee Yeah.

12:40 Adam I mean, I've heard some extreme reactions to writer's block.

12:43 Adam So.

12:44 Lee Yeah.

12:46 Adam May may maybe it is much the same, I don't know.

12:49 Adam

12:50 Adam The thing I tell you what, and I this is a weird thing.

12:56 Adam When I when I was watching it though this time, I just felt it was very Jordan Peele.

13:02 Chris

13:04 Adam Do you know what I mean?

13:05 Lee Yeah.

13:05 Adam So along the lines of like nope.

13:12 Lee Yeah.

13:12 Adam Where there's the the sort of thing about proving that it's there through like filming it, but also just the fact that there's the comedy is a lot of the comedy is derived from.

13:21 Adam Oh, there's someone reacting how you would fucking react in this situation.

13:25 Adam You don't react in a movie way or indeed in a sort of ironic Buffy Scream sort of way.

13:32 Adam It's just people like, no, no, no, I'm not fucking with that, that's just.

13:38 Adam And you know, and I but yeah, so I kind of got that feeling and I know that obviously Jordan Peele's like a massive fan of 80s horror.

13:50 Adam So, you know, I'm not suggesting that it's a copy, but I think definitely that tone is there.

13:58 Chris Yeah.

13:59 Adam

14:00 Adam But it's weird, I hadn't realized that this was the because it's basically the same.

14:05 Adam production team who did Friday the 13th.

14:12 Chris Oh, that's interesting.

14:13 Adam Same producer, writer.

14:18 Adam Like Sean Cunningham producing it and everything.

14:21 Lee Oh yeah, Fred Decker showed on the titles as the writer.

14:26 Adam But yeah, Fred Decker is the writer because obviously, so he wrote and directed Monster Squad.

14:30 Adam Night of the Creeps, RoboCop 3 and he wrote The Predator, not Predator, The Predator.

14:39 Adam

14:41 Adam And but apparently he wrote it, basically they they started writing it as a thing for for me, writing it as a segment for an anthology film.

14:53 Chris

14:54 Adam They were going to do like a horror like that was their sort of next project, they wanted to do like a horror anthology movie.

15:02 Chris Okay.

15:03 Adam and when the anthology didn't happen, they decided to take the segment that was house and expand it into the full film.

15:12 Chris Oh, yeah, okay.

15:14 Adam And then, another writer, so Fred Decker did the did the script first off, but it was a straight horror film and then Ethan Wiley came in and rewrote it and that's when it became a comedy.

15:30 Chris Oh, okay.

15:32 Adam And and he and then Ethan Wiley went on to write and direct House 2, the second story.

15:37 Chris Yeah, well so so I so I don't think I've seen House 2, so so I started to watch House 3 after seeing this just to remind myself and then I was like, oh no, this is this is serious, you know, in comparison, like there's no no comedy in this at all.

15:52 Chris So, but yeah, so what is the case with House 2 then and House 4?

15:59 Adam I'll tell right, I'm going to start let's do it in order of crap, I would say.

16:02 Chris Yeah, go on.

16:03 Adam So House 3 we've dealt with.

16:06 Adam For some reason, I don't know why, it's a film with Lance Henriksen in it, but it's not great.

16:11 Adam It's basically Shocker, the Wes Craven film.

16:14 Lee Oh, I was going to say.

16:15 Lee I've only seen the trailer, but it looks exactly like a rip-off of Shocker.

16:19 Adam Yeah.

16:20 Adam And it's basically, yeah, basically, I think it came out the same year as Shocker.

16:25 Adam And it's yeah, and it's got I can't think of his name, but Leon from Blade Runner.

16:33 Adam Turtle, what's a turtle?

16:34 Chris Yeah.

16:35 Adam As as the villain.

16:36 Chris And Genki.

16:39 Adam Gink, yeah, that's it, yeah, Genki.

16:41 Adam And, and it's like a very 90s, you know, it's a serial killer, slash, yeah, with a supernatural element on top.

16:49 Chris Yeah.

16:51 Adam Yeah.

16:52 Adam And then House 4 is very much a sort of return to the horror comedy thing, you've got and weirdly enough William Catt comes back.

17:02 Lee Yes.

17:03 Lee Yes.

17:04 Lee Oh yeah.

17:05 Adam As as Roger Cobb.

17:10 Lee Okay.

17:11 Adam So, so the main character in the first film, he comes back and but he's obviously been so moved by the fact that he's.

17:19 Adam child has been returned to him and it looks like he's going to reconcile with his wife.

17:25 Adam That he's divorced her and met someone else and had a kid with them and you never hear about the other family.

17:32 Adam And then he's dead within about 15 minutes of the start of the film.

17:38 Chris Okay.

17:39 Adam And it's the wife and daughter who are being sort of like subjected to the house.

17:43 Adam Which may or not be evil and may or may not be possessed by the ghost of Roger.

17:49 Adam But yeah.

17:50 Lee It's not very clear and it's not very good.

17:52 Lee Like it hasn't got the same level of comedy, it's got a few bits in it, but other than that, it's just an absolute snoozefest.

17:59 Chris Okay.

18:01 Adam And then House 2.

18:02 Lee House 2.

18:04 Adam Is a film that I wish I'd seen when I was a fucking child because.

18:08 Chris Yeah, okay.

18:09 Adam Man that is good.

18:11 Adam But it is off its fucking face.

18:15 Adam It is.

18:17 Adam Yeah.

18:18 Adam House House is weird.

18:19 Adam House 2 is fucking bizarre.

18:22 Chris Okay.

18:23 Lee If you liked House, Chris, you definitely need to see House 2.

18:27 Lee I.

18:27 Lee I think Bill is one of my favorite characters in a movie ever, just because he's just mental.

18:33 Lee played by John Ratzenberger again from Cheers.

18:38 Adam Yes, so again, it's like the two is the partnership from Cheers of like Norman Cliff.

18:45 Adam So Cliff's in the second one as an electrician and adventurer.

18:49 Lee Yeah.

18:51 Adam and.

18:52 Lee I just love the lot when he's looking at the electricity and he goes, oh, yeah, no, I yeah.

19:00 Lee You've you've got a dimensional issue.

19:02 Adam Yeah.

19:03 Adam You know what you're dealing with there is you got a portal into another dimension.

19:06 Lee Yeah.

19:07 Adam And it's just.

19:09 Adam And but and you've got crystal skulls, you've got an undead, undead distant grandfather, cowboy zombie who lives in the basement.

19:20 Adam There's a pet baby pterodactyl, there's a caterpillar dog puppy thing that comes from the prehistoric past.

19:27 Adam And it's.

19:28 Adam Yeah.

19:29 Adam It's just utterly fucking mad and lovely.

19:33 Chris Okay.

19:34 Adam Just lovely.

19:36 Lee It's so much fun.

19:37 Lee I had insomnia last night, so I was going to watch it this evening but I couldn't sleep.

19:42 Lee So I sat up until about quarter past two watching it this morning and just had a lovely time.

19:47 Lee I was like, oh, I'm normally.

19:48 Chris That sounds like the right kind of time to yeah, to watch it.

19:55 Lee Yeah, it's perfect, yeah.

33:21 Lee I am fighting off a cold at the moment as you can probably hear in my voice.

33:24 Lee So.

33:25 Chris That adds another layer.

33:26 Lee Couple of brandies and set up and watch that, I had a fantastic time.

33:32 Adam So I mean, talking of its time, the director Steve Miner.

33:37 Adam Also did quite a few of the Friday the 13ths, he did part two, part three, did Warlock, Lake Placid, Halloween H2O, the remake of Day of the Dead.

33:49 Adam

33:50 Adam But I think two films that sort of again, summing up the 80s and the 90s in this sort of way, is he did a film called My Father the Hero, in which a girl who fancies someone persuades her dad to pretend to be her boyfriend while they're on holiday, the boyfriend is played by Gerard Depardieu.

34:16 Adam And yeah, so already just a weird.

34:17 Adam but he's but he also directed Soul Man, which is about a white kid blacking up to get free college scholarship.

34:27 Chris Okay.

34:28 Adam And yeah.

34:30 Adam And again, that's a comedy.

34:33 Adam But I don't think they're really sort of yeah.

34:35 Adam I think it just highlights how a lot of opinions may have changed.

34:39 Adam But

34:40 Adam Yeah, so like I said, there'd been a lot of it's the guys who had to do with like Friday the 13th and various little bits and pieces on there.

34:52 Adam But also this has got Kane Hodder doing the stunts in this, who obviously went on to be Jason.

35:00 Adam over, I think it's I think it's over five films, I think he stopped when they did Freddy versus Jason, he's not in he's not Jason from then on, I think.

35:08 Lee It's funny, I didn't see him in the first film, but I did see him in the second.

35:12 Lee Because he gets thrown over the bannister by the guy who comes from yeah, like a barbarian who comes through one of the portals, isn't there?

35:22 Adam Yeah.

35:22 Lee Yeah, from prehistoric times, yeah, and just picks him up and lobs him over a balcony, but.

35:29 Adam Yeah.

35:30 Adam He's also he's also the pizza monster in number four.

35:37 Lee Oh, Kane Hodder?

35:38 Adam Yeah.

35:39 Lee Oh.

35:42 Adam So, but yeah.

35:43 Adam And I I had to I had to drop the quote down.

35:44 Adam Just because it really amused me.

35:47 Adam When he was asked why he wasn't playing Jason in in Freddy versus Jason, he said, I guess they just wanted Jason to look like a skinny little bitch this time.

35:56 Lee Yeah.

35:59 Lee I love Kane Hodder.

36:01 Adam

36:02 Lee I've seen him in something recently and I thought, oh, what was I it was something weird.

36:08 Lee I think it was like urban urban legends or something.

36:12 Adam Oh right, okay.

36:13 Lee And he's in the beginning, but literally he's just kind of pushing a mop.

36:16 Lee He might get pushed over, but yeah, I was just like, sure that's Kane Hodder.

36:19 Lee But yeah.

36:20 Lee So he does turn up quite often and a lot of the time he isn't credited either.

36:25 Lee So.

36:25 Adam No, no.

36:26 Lee If you don't recognize his face, you wouldn't know.

36:28 Adam Yeah.

36:29 Adam And and he's obviously like just done stunts on and acting in so many like genre films and stuff like that.

36:40 Adam Also juggler, I believe.

36:41 Adam So.

36:42 Lee It doesn't surprise me.

36:45 Adam That's why he did the Hatchet films, obviously.

36:47 Lee Yeah.

36:50 Adam Should have should have put two and two together there.

36:53 Adam I I love.

36:55 Adam That the opening in the bookshop as well, I think that's a brilliant collection of fans of a of a writer. You got, you know, like a couple of goths, a lot of nerds, a few hysterics, most of them without any social skills.

37:20 Adam It just seemed like the right sort of collection.

37:23 Adam Rather than just, you know.

37:24 Adam It's the same.

37:25 Adam Because you you don't find that it's the same people at something like that, you know, there's you know, there's no identic group of people.

37:32 Adam It's you know, various ages, various.

37:36 Adam I don't know, levels of bloody mentalness.

37:38 Lee Yeah.

37:39 Lee Yeah, like a man who's been to a lot of book signings.

37:42 Adam Yeah, yeah, that's true.

37:44 Adam But I think that.

37:46 Adam Because the the lady who's like who's shouting to him about his wife, that's Mindy Sterling, she's Frau Farbissina in the Austin Powers films.

37:58 Lee

37:59 Adam And in terms of other did you spot that the real estate agent is the owner of the hotel manager from Ghostbusters?

38:06 Lee No, I didn't.

38:07 Adam You know, you know, like the initial one where they go and catch Slimer.

38:11 Lee Yeah.

38:12 Adam Yeah, it's the same guy.

38:14 Lee Yeah.

38:14 Adam The guy who fires the harpoon accidentally fires the harpoon at him.

38:20 Lee Oh.

38:20 Lee The only other person I recognized obviously was Stephen Williams, who is, like, talk about typecasting, I don't think I've ever seen him in anything when he wasn't a policeman.

38:30 Adam I tell you what.

38:31 Adam I hadn't realized though, because, obviously we have to mention what a fucking performance in The Blues Brothers.

38:41 Lee Yeah.

38:42 Adam He, you know, he is you know, I mean that is just every fucking line is just done with perfection in that film.

38:48 Adam But I I hadn't realized he's he's he was Mr. X in the X-Files, you know, the guy who replaced Deep Throat after he gets bumped off in series one or whatever like that.

39:01 Lee Vaguely.

39:02 Adam Yeah.

39:03 Adam I hadn't realized I've never I've never made the connection, but then I'm I haven't really watched much beyond series 3 of the X-Files.

39:10 Adam So.

39:11 Lee I always remember him as he was in the the original 21 Jump Street, he was the Depth's boss in that.

39:19 Lee again.

39:19 Lee undercover cop.

39:21 Lee So yeah.

39:21 Adam Yeah.

39:22 Lee It was.

39:22 Adam Well, that's I suppose X-Files it would have been FBI so again, it's yeah, it's pretty much it's pretty much law enforcement.

39:28 Adam Maybe he's got his own badge.

39:29 Lee Yeah.

39:32 Lee I think he's just got that air about him.

39:33 Lee Hasn't he, he's just like and he just does always do so well.

39:38 Lee So yeah, if you need a cop to come in and just do a few lines, he's going to be your go-to every time, isn't he, really?

39:44 Adam Definitely, yeah.

39:46 Adam But yeah.

39:47 Adam I I mean I'm definitely going to say that it's the the funniest film that also features child abduction and Vietnam PTSD.

39:57 Lee Yeah.

39:58 Chris I think it could well win.

40:01 Adam And.

40:02 Adam And just to just to annoy all the right people, I will declare now, this is my favourite Vietnam movie.

40:08 Lee Yeah.

40:09 Adam You know, a long time ago it was Apocalypse Now, but I don't need to look cool at parties anymore.

40:14 Lee Yeah.

40:15 Adam So, yeah, it's House, it's got to be.

40:20 Lee Excellent.

40:21 Lee Oh, really?

40:22 Lee It was one of those when I watched the second one last night, I was like, I love House and we definitely needed to show it to Chris, but having watched House 2, I was like, we could have just jumped straight to this and I just it's that just that mental.

40:34 Lee Like Charlie is just off his chuff.

40:38 Lee And it's one of those character characters again.

40:43 Lee Excuse me.

40:44 Lee I still find off this cop.

40:47 Lee Who I spent the whole film trying to remember what I knew him from and it was too late at night to turn my phone back on.

40:56 Lee Sorry, but of course he played the familiar in Fright Night.

40:59 Adam Which goes to prove, I mean, sorry Chris, we're talking about the film you haven't watched.

41:02 Adam But he goes to prove what a terrific actor that guy is because he is nothing but.

41:08 Adam sort of odiously sinister in in Fright Night.

41:13 Chris

41:17 Adam And then in that he is.

41:18 Adam He's the he's the comic relief.

41:20 Adam He you know.

41:22 Lee He's the comic animal.

41:23 Adam Yeah, in what's already a comedy film.

41:27 Chris But do you think if we'd gone straight to House 2, it would have been too much of a jump?

41:31 Adam I'm not sure, to be honest.

41:33 Adam Because I think the good thing I would say is that House as a film series has no connections.

41:43 Adam Even the fact that Roger is in the first and the fourth film, you would not need to see the first one to even.

41:52 Adam In fact, seeing the first one confuses you more about House 4.

41:57 Adam Because you're like, well, didn't he have a son and that's not his wife.

42:02 Adam And oh, oh and he's dead.

42:04 Adam Okay, right, so.

42:07 Adam Yeah.

42:07 Adam I don't I think I think this is the

42:11 Adam I think it was also an unfortunate thing that.

42:14 Adam It was not of its time sounds wrong because of its times used more as a sort of like an excusing term.

42:21 Chris Yeah, yeah.

42:22 Adam Whereas I think that this is just such an example of the 80s that when they started doing the movies further into the 90s.

42:30 Adam Because I think House I think House 3's like 90 or something like that and then House 4's like 92 or something like that.

42:37 Adam But yeah, I think by then it it there just wasn't that same.

42:42 Chris They'd lost something.

42:44 Adam Yeah.

42:44 Adam Something just wasn't right.

42:48 Adam And I mean.

42:50 Adam Maybe maybe we'll curb our spoilers there and do House 2 at some point.

42:55 Adam Because there's no way I'm never fucking re-watching that again.

42:59 Lee Yeah.

42:59 Adam I.

43:01 Adam I am seriously at the point where I'm like, I kind of want to show it to Ted, he likes Ghostbusters and I don't think there's anything better or, you know, I don't think there's anything scarier in House 2 than anything that takes place in Ghostbusters.

43:18 Adam And more to the point, God, it's just such a kid friendly in it's a it's a family movie, it's like it's like an action adventure film with portals into hellish dimensions via.

50:12 Lee It is, and it's got all the sort of Ray Harryhausen style stop motion animation stuff in it, it's just, it's such a lovely film.

50:21 Lee But you're right Adam, there's apart from possibly the cowboy ghost who comes after him at the end.

50:30 Lee It's funny, I've got a mental picture of that, my dad clearly watched that when I was too young to see it, and it was one of those I'd gone down for a drink and he was like, right, go through the living room, don't look at the TV, don't look at the TV, and I took a quick glance, yeah, and it was the image of that cowboy standing at the end, and that's stuck with me ever since.

50:51 Lee Like not in a bad way.

50:52 Lee But I was always like, God, I love that.

50:54 Lee And I only watched this film for the first time, possibly three years ago.

51:00 Lee yeah.

51:01 Lee And recognized.

51:01 Lee I was like, oh my God, that's what that's from, I remember it so vividly.

51:05 Lee but yeah, this film is definitely one, definitely one I'll be going back to.

51:12 Lee I think I'll go back to two more than one.

51:13 Adam I think so now now that I've watched them, as I say, I mean one.

51:17 Adam I just it's just brilliant entertainment.

51:22 Adam You know, it's that is that's an example of party horror.

51:27 Lee Oh yeah, yeah.

51:28 Adam You know.

51:29 Adam But but in the serious way where it's party horror where even if you watch it on your own, you're having a party.

51:34 Chris Yeah.

51:38 Lee Just classic.

51:39 Lee

51:41 Lee Yeah, it's yeah, so much fun.

51:43 Lee And then the fourth one was awful.

51:45 Adam Yeah, yeah.

51:46 Adam It's just I think but like I said to Chris, I mean it's.

51:48 Adam It's rare that you can get a franchise where you can.

51:53 Adam Just walk into any of them and you don't you don't need any, you literally don't need to have seen any of them for them to work.

52:03 Lee Yeah.

52:03 Adam Because apparently, I mean House 3 was wasn't even marketed in America as a House film.

52:09 Adam It was only abroad that it got.

52:11 Chris Oh actually connected.

52:13 Adam Yeah.

52:13 Adam Connected.

52:14 Adam It was because I think it was developed, it was developed as House 3 and then they were like, well, this is so different.

52:20 Adam We'll just we'll just release it as I think it's called just a horror show, but everywhere abroad is House 3 the horror show.

52:25 Lee Yeah, exactly.

52:27 Lee Cuz it doesn't even look like it's linked to a house.

52:32 Adam It's it's not really.

52:33 Chris Yeah, I was like.

52:34 Chris I didn't get that far I didn't get that far through it, but yeah, I was thinking like they didn't seem to be.

52:39 Lee That was kind of the funny thing about the fourth one is the fact that so he inherited a house in the first one that was haunted.

52:43 Lee And then in the fourth one he inherits a house, which is also potentially haunted.

52:49 Lee Like oh.

52:50 Lee He's inherited two beautiful houses and they're both fucked him over.

52:52 Lee And the the funny thing is the story of his brother.

52:53 Lee The thing I kept coming back to watching it.

52:57 Lee His brother is desperate to get the house off of him because he wants to build on the land.

53:02 Lee It is a single house in the middle of a fucking dust bowl.

53:05 Lee It's like there's nothing for five miles in any direction, just build just up the road.

53:08 Lee Like why are you so intent on get.

53:10 Adam Build on the opposite side of the lake.

53:13 Adam Mind you, is it is it because you can't have people noticing that you're using, I mean this is this is how complicated it gets Chris.

53:21 Adam Because his brother wants it because he's got mob connections and they're gonna pump nuclear waste into like toxic waste into the lake as a disposal thing.

53:33 Adam Again, pointing out that this was made in the 90s, not the 80s.

53:37 Adam A more care for a more carefree age.

53:39 Lee Yeah.

53:41 Adam Whereas the two the two 90s entries are very much like, right, so what have we got here?

53:46 Adam Oh, we've got we've got a toxic waste conspiracy.

53:49 Adam And what else have we got, we've got a serial murderers back from the dead.

53:52 Lee We.

53:55 Lee Yeah, this series goes so off the rails so fast.

53:59 Lee yeah, it kind of I mean even the name house, as we said, by the third one they're just given up on that idea.

54:05 Lee Really and there's no as he say, it is nice that you can come into any movie and watch them standalone.

54:09 Lee But they're so tonally different, it's crazy.

54:12 Adam I mean, they're practically they're practically an they're practically an anthology series.

54:17 Lee Yeah.

54:18 Adam You know like how Halloween was like where they tried to do it with Halloween 3.

54:22 Adam Where they're just like, well, we'll just call a movie Halloween.

54:24 Adam And.

54:26 Adam But yeah.

54:27 Adam I.

54:28 Adam But it's yeah, it's just a shame that it does off after the first two.

54:31 Adam Because the the first one just is because the second one as I say, it's kind of family horror almost.

54:38 Lee Yeah.

54:39 Adam Because it's got it's got a swashbuckling adventure vibe to it.

54:40 Adam And.

54:42 Adam Cowboys and dinosaurs and comedy pterodactyls.

54:45 Adam You know, so it's.

54:46 Lee Yeah.

54:48 Lee Oh, just crazy.

54:49 Lee But yeah, such a fun film.

54:50 Lee I'm so glad you suggested this Adam because as I say, I've not I've only seen the original a few times.

54:54 Lee I've not watched it in a while.

54:57 Lee yeah, and it gave me an excuse to finally rewatch the second one again because it was only my second viewing of it.

55:03 Lee And I I was a little bit worried because I had such fun memories of it and I was like, well, I'll watch it the second time because I know what's coming.

55:11 Lee and I going to be disappointed.

55:12 Lee And I wasn't, I I just sat there thinking, you're an idiot because you watched this three years ago and you haven't watched it in between then and now, what have you been doing with your life really?

55:22 Lee So.

55:23 Lee so on that note, for our next episode, ladies and gentlemen, we will be doing least Haunted part 2.

55:27 Lee which was going to be us discussing ghost stories that listeners have sent in after lots of people said, oh, we've had interesting things happen to us.

55:36 Lee However, we have had next to no feedback from that.

55:39 Lee so.

55:40 Lee We will well basically I'm just happy, we've had a couple of interesting stories and I will be happy to just slag off the most haunted most haunted type TV shows for another half hour.

55:47 Lee So.

55:49 Lee We definitely won't be short of content.

55:50 Lee Oh and I I and I haven't shared my other two strange stories with you.

55:52 Lee Which I will be looking forward to doing.

55:55 Adam And I I shall attempt to have something happen to me in between now and that recording.

55:59 Adam So I can bait it.

56:02 Adam though although warning if it's things like, do you know what, there was a hole in my pocket and by thunder a pound coin disappeared.

56:09 Adam Don't know where.

56:11 Lee Oh.

56:13 Lee I've seen I was going to say, I've seen less spooky things than that on the most haunted type shows that I foist myself to watch just as a.

56:20 Lee It's one of those things.

56:20 Lee It's like therapy, it's like I I managed to spend most of my days at work.

56:24 Lee Not losing my rag with people and staying quite calm, so it's nice in a controlled environment.

56:31 Lee Which is normally at 11 o'clock at night on my own in front of the TV when I just let it all hang out and scream and shout and swear.

56:41 Lee I apologize if I have coughed or sneezed or made a horrible sniffing noise or anything through this.

56:44 Lee I do apologize.

56:45 Lee I tried very hard not to.

56:46 Lee But I am.

56:47 Chris You did well to make it tonight.

56:49 Lee I'm text.

56:50 Adam And I I don't apologize for anything that might have done.

56:53 Lee I just don't I can't say I can't do it because I've got a bit of a sniffly cold.

56:55 Lee Like what a.

56:57 Lee But then equally, I was like nobody wants to hear me, you know, running out of breath while sitting down talking for 40 minutes, but it's been pretty close to it at times, but.

57:04 Adam I don't know, you might not rate how sexy that could sound.

57:08 Lee Yeah.

57:09 Adam It might be some people.

57:10 Adam That's their favorite episode.

57:12 Lee They well.

57:13 Lee You know what, stranger things have happened.

57:15 Adam Yes.

57:17 Lee Anyway, so.

57:18 Lee Thanks ever so much for listening everybody, go and check out House.

57:22 Lee Go and check out House 2.

57:25 Adam Don't bother with 2 with 3 and 4.

57:27 Lee Yeah, no, definitely skip that.

57:29 Chris Just just watch two two more times.

57:32 Lee In fact, I've got to admit, I was watching four this afternoon, about an hour before we started recording.

57:39 Lee So I wasn't sure on time, I paused it 10 minutes from the end and went, you know what, I don't fucking need to know.

57:45 Chris You don't care.

57:46 Lee I I've sat through an hour and 20 minutes and couldn't give a shit to this point, I don't think anything's going to change.

57:56 Lee Thanks ever so much for listening, everybody.

57:57 Lee Good night.

57:58 Chris Good night.

57:59 Adam Good night.