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0:00 Lee

0:23 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.

0:26 Chris I'm Chris.

0:27 Adam I'm Adam.

0:29 Lee And we are here for the all-new, exciting, new format, of the show. So this is going to be our what we've been watching, where we are going to discuss the things that we've been watching and not have to try and rush it into the beginning of the episode.

0:47 Lee also I don't know how horror it's all going to stay. We're going to do our best, but we shall see.

0:53 Lee but in exciting news before that, Adam has been working his little socks off, collecting up all of your listener requests for listener request month.

1:06 Lee

1:07 Adam Excellent.

1:08 Lee And putting them all onto a massive, he's got I know you can't see it because it's a podcast, right, but he's got a huge two-foot wheel behind him with all of the films all pinned to it.

1:14 Lee And one of those magical spinning board things like they used to have on Wheel of Fortune, and he's going to do that for us live on air right now to choose the film.

1:21 Lee So Adam,

1:22 Lee Over to you in the studio.

1:29 Adam

2:10 Adam Yes, that's right, folks. I'm here in my gold lame jacket and we've got have have we got films for you.

2:16 Adam So,

2:17 Adam Just to let everyone know, the films that we have had, the films that suggestions for the films to watch,

2:24 Adam We had 100 Monsters from Claire.

2:28 Adam The Asfix from, Mos Eisley Happy Hour, Mos Eisley Happy Hour's very own Westley.

2:35 Lee Right.

2:36 Adam Joe Watson came in with Braindead.

2:39 Lee Classic.

2:40 Adam Adam Law came in with The Company of Wolves.

2:44 Lee Ooh.

2:46 Adam Bobby of the Not For Everyone podcast asked for Horror Express.

2:51 Lee Oh.

2:52 Adam former guest Manny asked for Malignant.

2:56 Lee Ooh.

2:57 Adam Uncle Dave asked for The Pit and the Pendulum.

3:01 Lee Oh.

3:02 Lee Amazing.

3:04 Adam former guest Dean asked for The Toxic Avenger.

3:09 Lee Yes.

3:10 Adam And Ledbelt Art asked for Wild Zero.

3:15 Adam So, that is a,

3:18 Chris Nice.

3:18 Lee Well I think,

3:19 Chris It is that is a very good list.

3:20 Chris But I'm pretty sure I only recognize Braindead, you know, it's I sort of have a sense you might have mentioned some of these before.

3:26 Chris I can remember a very long time ago, Lee, you might have talked about The Toxic Avenger.

3:31 Lee Yes, I I love those Troma.

3:33 Lee And I we were going to watch,

3:38 Lee We weren't going to watch Toxic Avenger, we were going to watch Class of Nuke 'Em High, wasn't it?

3:44 Adam Yeah.

3:45 Adam Yeah, that was that was that was that was part of the this the reason Dean suggested because it was like we haven't done any Troma yet.

3:52 Adam So, you know, he wanted to get.

3:54 Lee You know what, that is an amazing list.

3:55 Lee There isn't a film in there that I wouldn't gladly watch.

3:58 Lee And the last one, I haven't even heard of.

4:00 Lee So that's that's exciting, so I'll have to check that out.

4:02 Adam Wild Zero, I've, I remember hearing about, I too have never seen it, but it's basically a a Japanese punk horror movie,

4:09 Adam about a band who get involved with all kinds of weird nefariousnessnesses.

4:15 Adam So, yes.

4:16 Lee I'm watching that.

4:18 Adam That This Well, I mean, this is the thing. This could be a absolute Welcome to Horror, so well done.

4:24 Adam Well done, everyone.

4:27 Adam I'm just going to I'm just going to move on to my,

4:30 Adam where are we?

4:33 Adam Get on to my Dirty Wheel of Justice.

4:37 Adam And here we go.

4:42 Adam Yep, we're loading now and,

4:47 Adam Oh.

4:48 Adam You've gone all the way down there, have you?

4:50 Adam All right, that's typical.

4:53 Adam So.

4:54 Lee I'm not going to complain.

4:55 Adam

4:56 Adam There we go.

4:57 Adam Right.

4:58 Adam So, and,

5:01 Adam First off, we've got,

5:09 Adam Whoa, Horror Express.

5:13 Lee Hey.

5:14 Adam Which, yep, so that is from.

5:18 Chris So it's.

5:19 Adam Uncle Bobby over on the Not For Everyone.

5:22 Adam So that is,

5:23 Adam that will be, Cushing and Lee on a train with an alien Yeti that sucks your brains.

5:28 Adam And then, and then about two-thirds of the way in, Telis turns up and just steals the film.

5:35 Adam Apparently from another film.

5:39 Adam So, that should be.

5:41 Adam That should be that that's one I thought we've been we've needed to cover at some point anyway.

5:47 Adam So,

5:48 Adam And here we go with the second.

5:53 Adam

6:00 Lee Bit RoboCop.

6:01 Adam The Pit and the Pendulum.

6:03 Lee Oh.

6:05 Adam So that is Uncle Dave's suggestion.

6:07 Adam The Pit and the Pendulum.

6:08 Adam Now,

6:09 Adam I would definitely say that thank you to everyone for your suggestions. Congratulations, Bobby. Congratulations, Dave.

6:18 Chris I'm I'm just I just need to check though, The Pit and the Pendulum looks like there's a few different versions.

6:22 Adam he asked for the Vincent Price, Roger Corman's.

6:27 Chris Yeah.

6:27 Chris So that's likely to be on the older.

6:30 Adam 60.

6:32 Chris I see, yep, yep.

6:33 Lee 64, 63, 64.

6:35 Chris 61, it looks like.

6:37 Adam okay.

6:39 Adam But, yes.

6:41 Adam But please be aware, folks, that all of your suggestions are definitely going to be going onto our list anyway.

6:50 Adam Because,

6:50 Lee Oh,

6:51 Adam There's so there is so much good stuff there, you have suggested so many great films.

6:56 Adam And, I mean, for example, I mean, Joe Joe Watson came was the first one who came in and he asked for Braindead and it was like, shit, we haven't even done any Peter Jackson.

7:06 Adam And that is very that is very remiss to remind people that, oh, yeah, he's not just Lord of the Rings.

7:12 Chris Although I mean, you could, you could probably get Lord of the Rings into horror.

7:17 Chris It's it's definitely got a lot of horror aspects to it.

7:20 Lee It's closer to horror than some of the things I've got on the list that I might be watching.

7:25 Adam

7:28 Adam But there we go. So, Horror Express and The Pit and the Pendulum will be our,

7:32 Adam episodes coming up in July.

7:36 Adam And like I say, no doubt the remain the remaining seven will also be coming up because, yeah.

7:43 Adam They are some crackers there.

7:46 Adam Really are.

7:47 Lee Thank you so much to everyone who reached out to us, we, yeah, we we really appreciate it.

7:51 Lee We said, let's do listener request month.

7:53 Lee And then off there, we suddenly went, hope we get some requests. We look really stupid if no one said.

8:00 Adam

8:01 Lee And then we have to start.

8:04 Lee They're all on holiday this week.

8:05 Lee We're fucked.

8:06 Lee

8:06 Adam Then we just have to start putting in different things then just putting in false ones ourselves.

8:11 Adam So, this was this was suggested by P. Lota.

8:15 Adam And Ted has come up with this one.

8:19 Lee Fantastic suggestion from Kempston joystick there.

8:22 Adam

8:24 Adam And and Chris, we did see your suggestion for Requiem For A Dream.

8:29 Adam I would like to say that we are banned because we are not technically audience, so we can't request.

8:35 Adam But equally, it's Requiem For A Dream, mate.

8:38 Adam It ain't it ain't happening.

8:39 Chris I was thinking that wasn't the only reason it was banned.

8:42 Adam

8:45 Adam To quote, to quote John Water's dad, it was good, but I'm glad I never have to watch it again.

8:52 Adam

8:55 Lee God, yeah, I'd agree with that.

8:56 Lee Right.

8:57 Lee So onto onto this evening's, what we've been watching.

9:01 Lee what we're going to do is we are going to go in a circular fashion.

9:06 Lee so what we'll do is we'll start with, go on, Chris.

9:11 Lee You sound like you're going to.

9:12 Chris I was just thinking more triangular, but yeah.

9:15 Lee What what I meant was, we're not going to take, you know, I'm not going to do all my films and then Adam, what we're going to do is,

9:21 Lee Chris is going to do a film or a watch, and then Adam is going to do a watch, and then I will do a watch, and we will go around until the timer runs out or, yeah, we all get bored.

9:32 Chris Yeah.

9:32 Lee Oh yeah.

9:33 Lee There we go.

9:34 Chris We've fallen asleep.

9:35 Adam This sounds not unlike a threat.

9:38 Adam It's like, we we will shoot a villager on the hour, every hour.

9:43 Adam You until you either acquiesce to our demands or we run out of villagers.

9:47 Lee Oh, that's a point. Squid Game didn't even make it onto my list.

9:51 Lee I watched all of that this week.

9:53 Lee And it was bloody good.

9:54 Lee

9:55 Adam Oh, it's a it's a cracker.

9:55 Adam Also,

9:57 Adam Oh my God, poor bloody alley.

9:59 Lee Yeah.

10:01 Adam Poor alley.

10:02 Lee Oh.

10:03 Lee Oh, but yeah.

10:03 Lee Great.

10:04 Lee No.

10:05 Lee So.

10:05 Lee Sorry, yes.

10:06 Lee So, we won't get into that.

10:07 Lee So,

10:08 Lee Chris.

10:10 Chris Oh, I get to go first.

10:11 Chris All right, I'm I'm launching off with my biggest watch, probably, out of this list.

10:16 Chris So,

10:17 Chris I'm going to say,

10:19 Chris I've been running up that hill.

10:21 Chris And not not just because I've just visited Wales and they have really quite large hills.

10:25 Chris Also known as mountains.

10:27 Chris I've actually been watching Stranger Things and yeah, also listening to a lot of that song until I realized the entire world had went mad on that song and it got into like number one.

10:37 Chris And somehow that put me off a little bit.

10:40 Chris I feel like I can't join in with everyone.

10:42 Chris Anyway.

10:43 Adam Just like me, mate.

10:44 Adam You can't.

10:44 Chris I know, I know.

10:46 Chris I actually thought that, I actually felt like I am channeling Adam here.

10:51 Chris

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10:51 Chris

10:51 Chris

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10:52 Chris

10:54 Chris But yeah, so, so Stranger Things season four, I I was a little hesitant at first.

11:02 Chris I was like, oh, is it going to be as good?

11:03 Chris Now, I think some people perhaps didn't like season two and three as much as season one, I mean, season one did just, you know, blast out of nowhere.

11:13 Chris And grab us all by its 80s aesthetic and pretty original story, really.

11:19 Chris while also lots of nods to, you know, previous films and especially, and there's this is where I had real hesitation with this.

11:27 Chris Because Robert England is in it and have we mentioned spoilers?

11:32 Lee Oh, no.

11:33 Adam Oh, yes. Spoilers are swearing.

11:35 Adam Yeah.

11:36 Lee Don't take them all from.

11:37 Chris Yeah, so, so yeah, I thought, oh, are they going to pull that off a a Freddy.

11:43 Chris Like, how close is it going to be to Freddy?

11:47 Chris and yeah,

11:49 Chris I would say fantastic job once again blending horror with adventure.

11:57 Chris comedy.

12:02 Chris an amazing 80s feel, great style, excellent acting.

12:10 Chris Again, lots of children who are getting older now.

12:14 Chris but still, they've all got the charm.

12:19 Lee Yeah, we we said the same.

12:21 Lee So, so we've just watched it as well.

12:25 Lee Yeah, and it is it is far more horror than any of the previous seasons.

12:28 Chris Yeah.

12:29 Lee But we think that.

12:30 Lee It was it's only season four, but when it because of their age, when it flashes back to them in season one, my God, they look young.

12:37 Chris Yeah.

12:38 Lee How they've changed so much in four years, but I suppose going from, you know, some preteen to mid-teen.

12:42 Chris Yeah.

12:43 Chris Definitely.

12:44 Chris It can be a big difference.

12:46 Chris Yeah.

12:48 Chris but yeah, you know, so and one of the other things that I sort of noticed going through, I guess they really made it clear towards the end was this, idea of sort of who is good and who's bad.

12:59 Chris And that's especially the case with 11 in that she's really trying to figure out who is she, so it's it's sort of like a hero's journey.

13:06 Chris But does it turn out that she's actually, you know, just evil?

13:09 Chris And she just doesn't remember properly.

13:11 Lee I've just realized, sorry, I've just remembered of course, we are two episodes behind in the UK. Are we still two episodes behind?

13:21 Lee So it's nine it's nine episodes in the season, I believe, and it only put seven of them up on Netflix.

13:29 Lee They released it.

13:30 Lee They released.

13:30 Chris Yeah, well,

13:31 Lee Like in the US, so there's two more episodes to come.

13:34 Lee So if you've seen the end, don't tell me because I'm still on seven episodes.

13:38 Chris No, no, yeah, I'm on seven.

13:39 Chris But I thought I just saw earlier it said something like, sort of sneak preview of Volume Two.

13:46 Chris Coming out on I think 2nd of July.

13:49 Lee Yeah, yeah.

13:50 Lee So that's what I mean, so they released it all in the you they released the first seven episodes and held back the last two episodes.

13:55 Lee I think there's only two more.

13:55 Chris But they're calling it Volume Two and it's just two episodes.

13:57 Chris Okay.

13:58 Lee Possibly, I think there's only two more on IMDB when I look, that might have changed.

14:01 Lee

14:02 Lee But, but yeah, that was a bit annoying.

14:03 Lee So America got the whole thing in one go.

14:06 Lee And then they,

14:07 Chris Yeah.

14:08 Lee And I was like,

14:08 Lee well, luckily I don't go on social media much anymore, otherwise I would probably have had it spoiled, but.

14:16 Chris but yeah, yeah, so I I definitely liked this this sort of thread of of what's good and evil.

14:22 Chris And you know,

14:23 Chris I mean, they did even with say with Lucas joining the sort of jocks and he's he's trying to decide, oh, you know,

14:30 Chris like, these respect me, these think a lot of me, whereas my friends are not quite.

14:36 Chris And especially with, Max, you know, because she's obviously going for a lot of difficulties.

14:41 Chris So, yeah, that's sort of growing up and yeah, where do I fit in, what what decisions do I need to make, who do I side with?

14:48 Chris oh, and particularly, what's his name, Paul Riser from Aliens, he played Burke in Aliens.

14:59 Lee Oh, yes.

15:00 Chris

15:01 Chris Yeah, and and he is.

15:02 Chris Riser, okay.

15:04 Chris and he's he's evil in that, although you don't realize it until it's sort of unfolds and he's getting worse and worse, pretty much.

15:11 Chris And so, yeah, in this, I wasn't entirely sure, at first I thought, well, yeah, he seems like he's being good, but then it's not entirely clear then he argues with Brenner.

15:19 Chris And it just, yeah, I I thought there was a lot in it that held my attention.

15:24 Chris And yeah, and nice little twists and some fantastic scenes.

15:27 Chris So, excellent, I I hope they carry on and do a season five.

15:33 Lee Excellent.

15:34 Lee Yeah.

15:34 Lee I I I say I am in total agreement.

15:37 Lee I,

15:38 Lee yeah, I I really enjoyed it.

15:42 Lee I definitely found it way more horror than the previous seasons.

15:44 Chris Yeah.

15:45 Lee But yeah, I think that like you say, Chris, I think they've they've gone back almost to that first season where they've kind of got all the balance right.

15:52 Lee Of like the comedy and the horror and there's enough character development.

15:57 Lee And it all just sits so nicely.

16:01 Lee

16:01 Chris Yeah.

16:01 Lee Yeah, it's just so and all the as you say, like with Lucas, was like bringing the new characters in, they fit in so well, nobody's like, oh, we've known these people for ages.

16:11 Lee And they're just, they're just.

16:12 Chris Oh, we need to bolt on a few more, yeah.

16:15 Lee But yeah, like they all just come together so nicely, so brilliantly written.

16:19 Lee yeah.

16:20 Chris Yeah.

16:20 Chris Absolutely.

16:21 Lee With the Kate Bush.

16:22 Chris Yeah.

16:25 Adam Excellent.

16:26 Lee Adam.

16:27 Lee What would you like to talk about?

16:29 Adam well, first up is one that was actually, something that was a recommendation from Chris.

16:36 Lee Oh.

16:37 Adam so I have finally watched, and let's face it, this is going to sound quite sometime now.

16:43 Adam But I have finally seen 1997's Starship Troopers.

16:48 Adam So,

16:49 Adam

16:49 Adam Yes, because we were talking about, I think it came up when we were talking about, Tokyo Gore Police.

16:57 Adam And we were saying about the the sort of.

16:58 Chris Oh, yeah.

17:01 Adam You know, like the side bits and the cheerleading.

17:03 Adam That felt a bit like.

17:05 Adam RoboCop and then you mentioned about the Starship Troopers.

17:08 Adam So, yes.

17:08 Adam So it was, it was cheap on Blu-ray at Sainsbury's, so I thought I'll have.

17:13 Adam Excellent.

17:13 Adam Yeah.

17:14 Adam So I thought I'll have that.

17:16 Adam and, yeah,

17:17 Adam that's I mean, I can now, because.

17:20 Adam I never saw it because I think a lot of people had sort of said it it wasn't.

17:26 Adam Gory didn't put me off, because.

17:29 Adam Gory doesn't put me off.

17:31 Chris Yeah.

17:31 Adam But I think there were a lot of I think there was a lot of sort of thing where it was like, oh, this is just nasty for nasty sake and everything.

17:38 Adam And it's like, no, I just don't think that the people who are watching it have watched many gory films.

17:41 Chris Yeah.

17:42 Adam And also,

17:43 Adam you know, and and weirdly enough, actually, one thing I will say with it is that sort of set both effects wise.

17:49 Adam And I mean, obviously, it's majority CGI.

17:52 Adam But it still actually stands up quite well, you know, it's not sort of.

17:57 Chris I wonder if that's because they're all style.

17:58 Chris Does have that sort of humor layer within it.

18:01 Adam Yeah.

18:02 Adam Because that that was the thing I got watching it is is I still I think there's a.

18:07 Adam It's a weird one because I think there is the what I can only describe as the L. Murray the pub landlord effect.

18:13 Adam Inasmuch as I think there's a lot of people who watched it and got the satire of like, you know, oh, here's America going to war.

18:20 Adam Well, the Earth, but let's face it, it's America going to war.

18:23 Chris Yeah.

18:24 Adam And the fact that it's sort of begets a a very high level of fascism within yourself to be jingoistic about war.

18:29 Adam But then I think there are a lot of people who were just like, yeah, USA, We're Earth.

18:35 Adam Who were just quite into it.

18:36 Adam It's like, yeah, we would go and kick those fucking slimy bugs' asses.

18:40 Adam And we would, yeah, because we would be heroes.

18:42 Adam And, yeah, I think it sort of verges on that sort of level of confusion where it's like it sort of I'm not sure if the satire works entirely because I'm pretty sure there's a few people who read it as a straight.

18:52 Adam Action film.

18:53 Lee Yeah, yeah.

18:54 Adam You know.

18:55 Adam but I mean, it was, I mean, I really, yeah.

19:00 Adam I really, I mean, good cast. I mean, it was wonderful to see Michael Ironside and even I cheered when Michael Ironside turned up with a fox arm as leading the troops, you know, and even though it was like the most sort of like crappy like war like jingoistic war film sort of element.

19:09 Adam Because of that removed, because it's set in space and everything, you know, it sort of it I but I still was like, hey, my license turned up.

19:16 Adam He will kill them.

19:18 Adam And, and obviously Clancy Brown and so on and so forth.

19:22 Adam But I think,

19:22 Adam yeah, I was actually I was really surprised sort of like I say that visually it stood up really well.

19:29 Adam even to this day.

19:31 Adam And, yeah.

19:32 Adam No, I really enjoyed it and also there's a Bowie cover in there, which I was really shocked about.

19:36 Adam Because they're the prom, there's a cover of, I have not been to Oxford town.

19:45 Adam But they they I think they I have not been to Paradise or something like that, and but yeah.

19:50 Chris Okay.

19:51 Adam Which would have which which at the time would have only been two years old.

19:55 Adam So it was quite a sort of interesting little moment.

19:57 Chris I'll have to listen to that song and then rewatch it again just to fully appreciate that.

20:02 Adam But,

20:03 Adam yeah, no, I thought that, you know, I think that it sort of it was definitely, like, like I say, a fantastic parody of a war movie.

20:12 Adam Or, for those who of who want that.

20:17 Adam A jingoistic war movie.

20:20 Lee Well.

20:21 Chris Yeah, quite possibly for for for for a certain amount of Americans.

20:24 Chris Definitely would be.

20:27 Adam I I don't I don't think that's exclusively America.

20:29 Adam Well, no.

20:29 Adam I don't want to back.

20:30 Adam I don't want to stick to bashing them.

20:31 Adam Because there's there are plenty of people out there who no doubt do such things.

20:35 Adam And well, I saw someone had, someone that I follow on Instagram who'd put put up a picture of, Boris Johnson on a bus stop with just this man is wanted for.

20:42 Adam Crimes against humanity and everything and someone had written.

20:45 Adam And someone had felt the need to write underneath it in, in marker pen, no, fuck off, he's a fucking legend.

20:52 Adam And you like, yeah, in the same way that, I don't know, fucking Rumpelstiltskin's a legend.

20:58 Adam You know, see the horrible little goblin people.

21:02 Adam But, you know, it's sort of,

21:04 Adam But I digress.

21:06 Adam So, but yeah, I, so thank you, Chris, because that was like it was one of those ones where it's.

21:10 Adam Skirted around ever sort of watch.

21:12 Adam And I was like, well, no, Chris definitely, you know, Chris has said that he enjoyed it.

21:16 Adam And we were talking about like RoboCop and stuff.

21:18 Adam And everything.

21:19 Chris Yeah, when that.

21:19 Chris Yeah, once you'd said that and I realized that made a lot more sense, particularly with the adverts.

21:24 Chris But it it it definitely captures a potential future for us.

21:29 Adam Oh, well, I'm not even sure if it's a potential future now.

21:33 Adam I think it's just I think it predicted now, unfortunately.

21:37 Adam and actually the war the war correspondent bits are just.

21:42 Adam Fantastic just because it's the whole thing because it's it's the classic I mean we've as a side order to all this, one of the thing that I've been consistently watching lately is, I've been showing clear drop the Dead Donkey.

21:54 Adam And just rewatching that, and that show, again,

21:57 Adam apart from the technology that's used in it, really stands up, it's still funny, it's still works as a comedy show and everything else like that.

22:07 Adam But it does have that element of Damian's repulsion the Day X day, where it's from, from the,

22:14 Adam like on location where it's just those things of like, we're here alive and the bug and then the bloke just gets a fucking scorpions tail through him and stuff like that.

22:24 Adam And also,

22:24 Adam I do I do like a film that does have an unapologetic level of because that's the thing.

22:31 Adam Again, I don't know what the business was because I can understand why it was offputting for people.

22:36 Adam Because they were probably like, I think a lot of people might have read it the other way of like, this is just a jingoistic war film with.

22:41 Adam And it's really gross.

22:45 Adam And it's like, yeah, you're not quite got the point.

22:47 Adam But wasn't it funny that bloke but his brain's blown out, you know, that's just.

22:51 Adam That's why it's like, come on.

22:52 Adam Come on, people line up.

22:54 Adam So, so thank you, Chris.

22:56 Adam That was a good recommendation.

22:57 Chris You're very welcome.

22:59 Lee Excellent.

23:01 Lee my first choice.

23:03 Lee I'm going to mention I mentioned it very briefly, you know, a previous episode because I had a little bit of a rant about it, but I'm going to do it again anyway.

23:11 Lee so Morbius.

23:13 Lee I finally caught up with.

23:14 Chris Oh.

23:15 Lee

23:17 Lee Yeah.

23:17 Adam Let's get Morbin'.

23:18 Lee Yeah, this film was problematic for me.

23:22 Lee

23:24 Chris You don't have to give a quick summary.

23:27 Chris Because I don't I just know it's Marvel.

23:29 Lee Yes, so it isn't full-on Marvel.

23:31 Lee It's like the Venom.

23:33 Chris Okay.

23:33 Lee It's the same people that Venom stuff.

23:35 Lee So it's.

23:36 Adam It's the it's Sony, Sony owns certain ones.

23:40 Chris Right.

23:41 Chris Okay.

23:42 Chris That's not the MCU.

23:43 Lee No.

23:44 Adam It's not the Marvel in the queue that like Disney affiliated well, Disney owned Marvel in the queue. No, this is Sony's like you say, I think Venom and Morbius about it really.

23:53 Adam Oh, and Ghost Rider, I think then.

23:57 Lee but I I really enjoyed the Venom movies.

23:59 Lee So I was quite looking forward to this.

24:02 Lee

24:03 Lee but it just fell apart at every.

24:06 Lee And the problem is,

24:06 Lee it made me feel really hypocritical because I I have become one of those people.

24:12 Lee I know we were talking previously off air about how little I hate leaving the house for longer than a couple of hours.

24:19 Lee And yet like the cinema has become part of that, it's like, oh my God, every time a film comes out, it's got to be at least three hours long and blah.

24:27 Lee So when this came out and it was an hour and 45 minutes, I was like, lovely.

24:31 Lee In two a story, get.

24:33 Lee But it just felt rushed, it felt like, right, and then he does this, and then he does that, and then he goes to this place, and then and I was just like,

24:40 Lee just slow down, take a break, but because they had to squeeze it all into an hour and 45.

24:47 Lee It was just rushed.

24:48 Lee And it was just scene in the scene, and I was like, just just let something sit for a bit, like, let me get my head around what's just happened before you jump into the neck.

24:57 Lee

24:58 Lee Yeah, so that didn't work.

25:00 Lee as I said before, Matt Smith, for some reason, it was it was like they said to him,

25:04 Lee we can't decide on delivery, so what we'd like you to do is every, can you try and deliver all your lines like like Stephen Fry, for example, and then on every third one, can you be Dick Van Dyke from Mary Poppins.

25:13 Lee And that is what his delivery was like.

25:15 Lee The whole way through.

25:16 Lee And I was like,

25:17 Lee apart of me it was like, is this supposed to be like, like a like a not schizophrenic, but like is it multiple personalities?

25:23 Lee Like.

25:24 Lee Is someone in posh?

25:26 Adam Is it reflecting like changes in him, like mood swings or something?

25:31 Lee Yeah, but no.

25:31 Lee It was just so you couldn't pick.

25:33 Adam No, it's just he he kept he kept forgetting he was meant to be Right Winston.

25:37 Lee Yeah.

25:38 Lee Exactly.

25:38 Lee Yeah.

25:39 Lee And just and oh, it was just so like it got to the point it got through annoying to the point where I stopped paying any attention to the film and was just laughing at his performance terribly.

25:48 Lee So, sorry, Matt Smith, I I know you're you've done some great stuff, but this isn't one of them.

25:54 Lee

25:56 Adam To be to be honest, outside of Doctor Who, I haven't heard a great deal of praise for a lot of the stuff he's done.

26:03 Lee Yeah, it's a shame.

26:04 Adam So that that might have just been his key, like, he might have found his niche at 27.

26:10 Adam And he's now going to have to spend the next 50 years with people going, it's just not that, is it?

26:15 Adam So.

26:17 Lee Yeah, it's a shame.

26:18 Lee yeah, and I just I found that like the whole superpowers and what happens if he does drink blood.

26:23 Lee And what happens if he doesn't drink like the whole thing was just really ill-defined and chaotic.

26:27 Lee So, yeah, I just thought and again, I I sat and watched the whole thing and then two days later I brought it up on IMDB and I went, oh, yeah, Michael Keaton was in it.

26:33 Lee Like, I just forgot an entire section of the film.

26:36 Lee It was just really badly because it rushed like all the kind of sideish stories were all just crammed in.

26:44 Lee Right, quick, quick, get through that.

26:45 Lee Get through that.

26:46 Lee So you just forgot all about him.

26:47 Lee And it so you when you boiled it down, you were like, so he invented a thing and then he did a thing and then it killed some people.

26:53 Lee In credits.

26:54 Lee And I was like, oh.

26:55 Lee So, yeah, not a fan of that.

26:57 Lee But.

26:58 Lee It's fine, they tried something new.

27:01 Lee I'm not upset with it.

27:02 Adam But there is a thing going around at the moment where it's just Jared Leto saying,

27:09 Adam it's impressive that you've managed to be in the worst of the DC and the Marvel films.

27:16 Adam So.

27:17 Lee It is true.

27:18 Lee And the thing is, like, I don't think he's a terrible actor.

27:22 Lee I just I don't know.

27:24 Adam He's just terrible person.

27:25 Lee That's why it could that could be it.

27:26 Lee I don't know anything about.

27:27 Adam But then, you know, we we we we can praise Tom Cruise's performance.

27:31 Adam Just just damn him in real life.

27:34 Adam Yeah.

27:35 Lee Yeah.

27:38 Lee oh, speaking of which, I can't wait to see the new Top Gun.

27:42 Lee Because I've heard some really good things about it.

27:44 Lee But I haven't yet.

27:45 Lee So.

27:46 Lee So it's not on my.

27:47 Lee What I've been watching.

27:48 Chris It it took me, when did the original Top Gun come out sometime in the 80s?

27:53 Lee 80s, early 80s.

27:55 Adam 85.

27:56 Chris Okay.

27:56 Chris I didn't watch it.

27:57 Chris Till like 2015, I think.

28:00 Lee I saw it six years ago for the first time.

28:03 Chris Did you?

28:03 Lee But I've not gone back and rewatched it.

28:05 Lee But I am going to.

28:06 Chris It was way better than I expected.

28:08 Lee Yeah, yeah, me too.

28:09 Lee I think, but I am definitely going to back-to-back when the new one comes out on Blu-ray or streaming, whichever comes out first.

28:15 Lee I once I've got my hands on it, I will definitely be rewatching the original first and then the following night.

28:20 Lee I'll watch the new one.

28:21 Lee Adam doesn't look like he's going to even consider that.

28:25 Chris Does it follow on then?

28:26 Chris I I imagined it was a retelling.

28:28 Adam No, no, no, it's Tom Cruise.

28:30 Adam And it is a sequel.

28:31 Lee Oh.

28:32 Chris Okay.

28:32 Chris Okay.

28:32 Adam He's actually playing.

28:34 Chris Fair enough.

28:35 Adam The same character.

28:36 Adam And, yeah.

28:37 Adam Thank you, Maverick.

28:40 Lee

28:41 Adam

28:42 Adam Excellent.

28:43 Lee Sorry, yes, sorry, Chris, I keep trying to hand over to you.

28:46 Lee And then,

28:46 Adam Sorry.

28:47 Lee And then, it's me as well, it's fine.

28:48 Lee Chris.

28:50 Chris

28:51 Chris Wouldn't it be funny if if one of these files came alive?

28:56 Chris I am a file and you put documents in me do do do do I file.

29:03 Chris You you know, if it did a song.

29:05 Chris No, that sounds very boring.

29:08 Chris

29:10 Lee What is happen.

29:11 Lee Have you been doing Don't Hug Me?

29:13 Chris Yes.

29:14 Adam He has.

29:15 Chris Funnily enough, though, I did actually watch it, it was about like a day or two before, if one of you posted that it's been picked up by I think Channel 4.

29:22 Adam Yeah, yeah.

29:24 Chris So I'm assuming are they are they actually just going to release the six episodes on Channel 4 then?

29:27 Adam I think they're doing I think they're doing new stuff.

29:28 Adam Because I know.

29:29 Chris Oh, okay.

29:29 Chris Yeah.

29:30 Chris Well that'd be good.

29:31 Adam I know that they'd post I think they'd like the, oh, I can't can't think of the.

29:37 Adam Creator's name for the life of me.

29:40 Adam Becky.

29:41 Chris Becky, yeah.

29:41 Chris I've got Becky.

29:42 Adam

29:43 Chris

29:44 Adam Yeah.

29:45 Adam

29:46 Adam but, yeah, she'd posted that, they were working on new material quite a while back.

29:52 Chris Becky Sloan, Joseph Pilling, Baker Terry.

29:53 Adam

29:54 Adam That's it.

29:54 Adam Yeah.

29:55 Adam but yeah, she said that she they said they were working on, like new episodes quite a while back.

30:03 Adam And then, yeah, saw this in the last couple of weeks and it's like, ooh, okay.

30:07 Adam So I presume it's going to be this this sort of like new stuff but additional to what they've already put out there.

30:13 Adam I don't know.

30:14 Chris Yeah.

30:15 Chris That's great.

30:15 Chris Yeah.

30:16 Chris I I love it.

30:16 Chris It's,

30:19 Chris is almost I like it more again each time I watch it.

30:23 Chris Just I guess you see a bit more and it's not it's not as good like the first time you watch it, it is kind of confusing.

30:29 Chris You know, because you don't really know what to expect or what's going to happen.

30:33 Chris But, yeah, it's just it's it's great.

30:36 Chris They've captured some some great ideas.

30:41 Adam Which is.

30:42 Adam Something that I think has been like there was the recently, Inside Number Nine's latest series finished.

30:47 Adam And they had, an episode which featured like a public information film in it, and that blended into the psychosis of one of the protagonists.

30:55 Adam And it's sort of, and it had that same sort of feeling of Don't Hug Me I'm Scared where it's like, oh, this is something familiar, but now it's being distorted.

31:02 Lee Yeah, yeah, we that episode, so I I'm still on my not drinking on the bandwagon, and I've been like three and a half months and we had a barbecue in the garden, a barbecue.

31:12 Lee So we had a bonfire in the garden.

31:12 Lee And Jen said, we got some homemade cider.

31:15 Lee So I was like, yeah, go on, let's have a drink.

31:17 Lee I'm going to have three months.

31:19 Lee

31:19 Lee So chugged away through the cider, a couple of beers.

31:23 Lee Came indoors, and Jen said, oh, there's an episode of Inside Number Nine.

31:25 Lee Put it on, yeah, it got about 10 seconds in, I went, yeah, I'm not watching this.

31:30 Lee Like, this is going to be one of those terrible.

31:32 Lee Like, ruins your evening ones, and I'm drunk for the first time in three months.

31:36 Lee I was like, nah, fuck this off.

31:37 Lee We're not doing this.

31:38 Adam Probably a wise decision, to be honest.

31:41 Adam Yeah.

31:42 Lee We did go back to it the next night when I was sober, and I was like, I'm so glad that would have just.

31:46 Adam Yeah.

31:47 Lee Yeah.

31:48 Lee So badly.

31:49 Adam Well, not only that, but also the trouble is by having that bad experience, you've then got it reflected on an episode which is otherwise absolutely fucking brilliant and so subtly done.

31:58 Adam What I liked about it is there wasn't.

32:01 Adam You know precisely what's.

32:03 Adam What's going on in terms of like, you know, what has been going on with him and his dad and stuff like that.

32:08 Adam But.

32:09 Adam They didn't have to overdo that, they didn't have to put too much in or anything.

32:13 Adam And in a little off note, you know, there's the episode setting the classroom.

32:16 Adam That was like, I think the second episode of this of the most recent series.

32:20 Adam if you look in the background, there's a wise old owl poster.

32:28 Lee Oh, really?

32:29 Adam But yeah.

32:29 Adam But apparently, recent Steve had nothing to do with it, it was the set designers knew that they were doing wise old owl in something, so they made a wise old owl poster.

32:37 Adam Translated the warning into Welsh and put it on the wall, and recent Steve only found it when they got to the set.

32:44 Adam And it was like, that must be pretty fucking terrific when you're, you know, the the creative team, everyone's so.

32:51 Adam Like into it that they're doing things like that that even they weren't aware of.

32:55 Adam And, yeah.

32:56 Chris Now, I'm going to have to catch up with this because, winner of the the spin of horror film.

33:00 Chris Dave did put that in a comment something about a wise old owl for those, you know, who know about Inside Number Nine.

33:05 Chris So I'm going to have to watch this and see if I can piece together that cryptic.

33:13 Lee It's it was again it was just a I know we're not.

33:15 Lee Sorry, we're going off slightly.

33:16 Lee But yeah, Inside Number Nine this season has been absolutely amazing.

33:22 Lee yeah.

33:23 Lee That that episode and they do every now and again, they do throw in a really dark depressing episode, and they're always brilliantly done, but they are the ones that I go, I'm skipping that when I rewatch these things.

33:36 Adam They they have their Requiem For A Dream moments.

33:39 Chris Yeah.

33:40 Lee Chris's favorite Chris's highlight.

33:42 Lee So you're.

33:42 Chris You're tempting me, I'm going to have to do this.

33:44 Adam Seriously, mate, Inside Number Nine is one of the finest and most consistent anthology series I have ever seen.

33:56 Adam And, you know, I I mean, and it's weird because I mean, I love the Twilight Zone, Black Mirror, Outer Limits, Tales of the Unexpected.

34:03 Adam Shadows.

34:05 Adam And all these various ones where it's like all these great anthology series, but Inside Number Nine for a show that is written by two people.

34:11 Adam And essentially stars two people regularly is probably one of the best anthology shows in that's been, frankly.

34:18 Adam Because I mean, you know, he genuinely and he genuinely can cut it.

34:22 Chris Is it something.

34:23 Chris Like because they do such extremes from funny to dark and then like you also said, they're very good at subtlety.

34:28 Chris So it sort of got such a mixture.

34:32 Adam Yeah, it really really works.

34:33 Adam And the best thing about it is is that as in a weird way is you get away from that you get away from thinking about the twist.

34:43 Adam Because the tongue.

34:45 Chris Yeah.

34:45 Chris Okay.

34:45 Adam Yeah, of the thing could be different sometimes it's a comedy, sometimes it's a really broad farce, sometimes it's witty, sometimes it's dark as fuck.

34:56 Adam You know,

34:57 Adam and stuff that you wouldn't necessarily put next to each other.

35:00 Adam But that but it has that.

35:02 Adam That feeling of a really good like short story collection or something like that.

35:06 Adam You know, where it's like you can.

35:09 Adam And.

35:11 Adam There's a weird.

35:14 Adam There's a sort of weird consistency, one of the things that about it is definitely the music.

35:20 Lee Yeah.

35:21 Adam

35:21 Adam because there's it's the guy who did, Christian Henson.

35:25 Adam Who did Triangle.

35:28 Adam And I hadn't actually joined it all together until we covered Triangle.

35:31 Adam But, yeah, he he writes like he's done all the music for Inside Number Nine, but I've seen like heard interviews with him.

35:37 Adam And he's like,

35:39 Adam Well, what I do is is I try and get the the essence of the piece, but also sometimes I go into misdirection because I know that, you know, if you go into something putting big gothic horror sounds on it, but you're only going to reveal at the end that there's a supernatural element to this story.

35:57 Adam You know,

35:58 Adam you have to sort of in a weird way, you have to play the deceit game with them.

36:02 Adam But I mean certainly I mean certainly I think it's even if we did it as an offshoot.

36:08 Adam You know, I I would happily rewatch.

36:10 Adam Any of Inside Number Nine.

36:11 Adam So it's definitely definitely worth checking out, Chris.

36:12 Chris Yeah.

36:13 Lee Amazing show.

36:14 Lee Always.

36:16 Lee sorry, and did we get into Inside Number Nine?

36:19 Lee That wasn't any of my choice, was it?

36:20 Adam No, it was from Don't Hug Me I'm Scared.

36:21 Lee

36:22 Adam We got hugged.

36:23 Adam And scared and inside number nine turned up.

36:25 Lee Yeah.

36:26 Adam It happens.

36:27 Lee Yeah.

36:28 Lee That's fair.

36:29 Lee yes, and also on that, did you see I know I'm probably the only one who's excited by this and I'm probably on a list somewhere for being a 40-year-old man who's excited by this, but the trailer for Hocus Pocus 2 dropped yesterday and I'm excited about that.

36:39 Adam To be.

36:40 Adam To be honest, I think I think you're in the age range that is the most excited about that.

36:44 Lee Yeah.

36:45 Adam Because I I don't know if the I don't know if the the the much younger generation are that aware.

36:50 Adam To be honest.

36:50 Lee Oh, right.

36:51 Adam But yeah.

36:52 Chris Was was Hocus Pocus mostly a comedy?

36:54 Lee Yeah, it's it's a Disney Kids film.

36:56 Lee Set it out.

36:57 Chris Yeah, yeah.

36:58 Chris I just I couldn't quite remember if it was like drama comedy.

37:01 Chris Because so I'd nearly started watching The Craft.

37:05 Lee

37:06 Adam The remake or the the original.

37:08 Chris I didn't know.

37:09 Chris There's a remake.

37:10 Chris Yeah.

37:10 Chris No, I saw the original.

37:11 Lee Oh.

37:12 Lee Sorry.

37:13 Chris Yeah.

37:13 Chris but I mean she hasn't done her a lot, I guess.

37:16 Chris That I know of.

37:17 Chris She stopped acting, perhaps.

37:19 Adam No, she acting, but I think there was an element of blacklisting after the Island of Dr. Moreau.

37:24 Adam but that's a whole.

37:25 Adam Another story.

37:26 Chris Okay.

37:27 Chris

37:28 Chris Yeah.

37:29 Adam

37:29 Chris Return to Oz was.

37:30 Lee Oh.

37:31 Adam

37:32 Chris but yeah, no, so so I was thinking I kind of don't know.

37:36 Chris I'd probably mixed those two up, but I'm assuming they're kind of quite different.

37:43 Lee Very different.

37:43 Chris So.

37:44 Chris Okay.

37:44 Chris All right.

37:45 Lee The Craft is very aimed at like.

37:47 Chris Okay.

37:47 Lee Teenagers, I'd say, and it's probably teen horror, quite dark, yeah, okay, whereas Hocus Pocus is just a Disney.

37:53 Chris Like a fun family.

37:55 Adam Like a.

37:55 Lee Yeah.

37:55 Chris Yeah.

37:56 Chris Okay.

37:57 Lee Like a Bedknobs and Broomsticks style rather than, you know, sort of.

38:02 Lee Scary.

38:03 Lee Scary.

38:04 Adam So no carry.

38:05 Lee Yeah.

38:06 Adam Exactly.

38:07 Adam Yeah.

38:08 Lee but yeah, so I I just I think it's one of those.

38:12 Lee I think one of the things Disney do do particularly well is like catching like the Disney Christmas films feel proper Christmas, and I think Hocus Pocus catches that Massachusetts.

38:19 Lee Halloween, you know, in the fall and just going trick or treat, and it just catches that so well, and then, yeah, they just put three of the most hilarious witches in it.

38:27 Lee

38:28 Lee yeah, and I I just I think the only thing I don't like about that film is like we said earlier, there's a dance number in the middle of it for no reason whatsoever, which I skip every time I watch it.

38:40 Lee

38:41 Lee Because I love.

38:42 Lee Bet.

38:42 Adam That's that's the that's the thing you have to put up with with Disney though, there's going to be a children.

38:49 Lee Yeah.

38:50 Adam The only the only film that doesn't subscribe to that is, the Emperor's New Groove, which is why it's fucking brilliant.

38:55 Lee

38:57 Lee

38:58 Lee But yeah, so I'm very much looking forward to.

39:01 Lee And the Monsters.

39:01 Lee Looks like it's coming along nicely.

39:03 Chris Oh, yeah.

39:04 Adam Yes.

39:04 Adam Yeah, there's released a teaser for it now.

39:07 Adam Haven't they?

39:07 Lee They have.

39:08 Lee It's very goofy.

39:09 Lee But yeah.

39:10 Adam Yeah.

39:11 Adam

39:12 Lee So.

39:12 Adam I I presume he's aiming for October with that as well.

39:14 Lee Yes.

39:14 Lee I was.

39:15 Adam It would make sense.

39:16 Lee Yeah.

39:17 Lee But then again,

39:18 Lee does he want to go up against Hocus Pocus 2?

39:19 Lee I mean,

39:21 Adam We it depends actually.

39:23 Adam Because both of them have a legacy audience.

39:26 Lee Yeah.

39:27 Adam Possibly the Monsters might have a greater one.

39:29 Lee He could well be right.

39:30 Lee anyway, right.

39:32 Lee So, thanks ever so much for listening, everybody.

39:34 Lee go and check out.

39:35 Lee All the things that we've been discussing.

39:37 Chris Yeah.

39:38 Lee and also.

39:40 Lee Apart from.

39:41 Lee Apart from the ones that obviously we said were wank, don't go and watch the ones that are you wasting your time.

39:44 Lee Don't go and watch Mobius because you're wasting your time.

39:48 Lee next month,

39:50 Lee as we said, will be listener request month, so we are going to be going with.

39:54 Lee Horror Express and The Pit and the Pendulum.

39:58 Adam Yeah.

40:00 Lee

40:01 Lee Yeah, and the rest of those films.

40:03 Lee Are definitely going on a list.

40:05 Lee We can either we can add them into the draw for the next month.

40:07 Lee Or, anyway, they're all going on the list of stuff we need to watch.

40:11 Lee So.

40:11 Adam Yeah.

40:12 Adam We'll we'll be working our way through them. I mean, the list ever expands, one day the list will end and then so will the podcast.

40:20 Adam So thank you for continuing.

40:22 Adam This Sian effort of, you know, we're just keep rolling this boulder up the hill of podcasts.

40:29 Adam There we go.

40:33 Lee yes, and we will be back again for that.

40:37 Lee And then so we'll do those two episodes and then we'll be back to what we've been watching again.

40:39 Lee So, thanks very much for listening, everyone, and good night.

40:42 Adam Good night.